If PAC wins over 2 top WWs this year, is he FOTD again?

[HandsofIron]

to be the fighter of the decade you have to beat the fighter of the decade and the fighter of the decade was broner so yes pac is the fighter of the decade

True, true.

/thread

[bluebeam]

Watch the video. What he says is in par of why it is so.

Again how does a pacquiao win vs a inactive Thurman who almost lost his tune up classify as a great win? A win over Thurman would hold no value. He would be coming off of 1 fight in 2 years and one of his worst defenses.

This dude pretending like this is 2017 Thurman when he had momentum. This is 2019 Thurman, no momentum.

Especially when you consider there are 2 undefeated active champions who are on the p4p list that would be way better wins for a 40 year old Pac.

Thurman is a safe fight when you consider the alternative. Errol spence/Bud Crawford

[Spoon23]

Again how does a pacquiao win vs a inactive Thurman who almost lost his tune up classify as a great win? A win over Thurman would hold no value. He would be coming off of 1 fight in 2 years and one of his worst defenses.

This dude pretending like this is 2017 Thurman when he had momentum. This is 2019 Thurman, no momentum.

Especially when you consider there are 2 undefeated active champions who are on the p4p list that would be way better wins for a 40 year old Pac.

Thurman is a safe fight when you consider the alternative. Errol spence/Bud Crawford

Aaah since Thurman is suppose to be in his prime and one of the best in welterweight and Pac is old and should not be able to defeat a prime top fighter of the division. That tells you an old man, if he wins, turned back the clock and won, when he is suppose to lose. Meaning if Pac does it.. It adds to his luster as an aging warrior that can still fight with the best of the new breeds.

[hugh grant]

If Pac beats one of the trio, thurman, Crawford or spence before they beat each other then Pac is fotd again.
As they are ducking each other.
So if Pac beats thurman next Pac is once again fotd. Because spence and crawford couldn't do it, either because they weren't willing to or whatever.
Plus the fact Pac is out of prime doing it is taken into account and they're in prime

[Roadblock]

Oh WOW another IF thread about Manny fighting WWs, tell me the last time Manny fought a full WW, not a guy coming from a lower division, a full WW, after you tell me that tell me the last prime full WW.

Manny can beat any elite prime WW, IF he fights them, he just doesnt fight them lol.

[hugh grant]

You can’t get FOTD with a loss to joe horn during the decade.

You are so biased and immature and you've had the cheek to call me biased. Do you realise when you come out with comments like this you aren't doing yourself any favours and it will comeback to haunt you. Nobody will take anything you say serious in future

It's fighter of the decade. Not he did well for an old man of the decade. So no.

Floyd at 38 was too old to even contemplate fighting thurman. People were called Floyd haters if anyone politely suggested Floyd should consider fighting thurman, or spence instead of berto.
So if Pac beats thurman at 40, he is FOTD once again I'm afraid. In a fair world it wouldn't be up for debate or negotiation.

[The Big Dunn]

If Pac beats one of the trio, thurman, Crawford or spence before they beat each other then Pac is fotd again.
As they are ducking each other.
So if Pac beats thurman next Pac is once again fotd. Because spence and crawford couldn't do it, either because they weren't willing to or whatever.
Plus the fact Pac is out of prime doing it is taken into account and they're in prime

You are so biased and immature and you've had the cheek to call me biased. Do you realise when you come out with comments like this you aren't doing yourself any favours and it will comeback to haunt you. Nobody will take anything you say serious in future



Floyd at 38 was too old to even contemplate fighting thurman. People were called Floyd haters if anyone politely suggested Floyd should consider fighting thurman, or spence instead of berto.
So if Pac beats thurman at 40, he is FOTD once again I'm afraid. In a fair world it wouldn't be up for debate or negotiation.

You can't be serious. He lost to Horn. That isn't the same as losing to Morales. Even a delusional pac fan like yourself should be able to admit that.

Manny is 11-4 this decade with losses to Floyd (10-2 UD), Bradley, JMM (by KO) and Horn. Yes he beat Bradley 2x, JMM 1x (very controversial most had JMM winning) and some other good wins.

A win over Thurman doesn't make his decade superior to Floyd, Usyk, ward, Loma, AJ or Crawford.

You are completely delusional.

[chrisJS]

You can't be serious. He lost to Horn. That isn't the same as losing to Morales. Even a delusional pac fan like yourself should be able to admit that.

Manny is 11-4 this decade with losses to Floyd (10-2 UD), Bradley, JMM (by KO) and Horn. Yes he beat Bradley 2x, JMM 1x (very controversial most had JMM winning) and some other good wins.

A win over Thurman doesn't make his decade superior to Floyd, Usyk, ward, Loma, AJ or Crawford.

You are completely delusional.

I think if you are going to point out that JMM-Pac III was very controversial due to the majority having JMM winning it's only fair to add that comment to Pacquaio-Bradley I and Horn. I had Marquez winning 116-112 and he did win but Pacquaio won no fewer than 9 rounds vs. Bradley for example.

I think a win over Thurman really puts him in the running. It's the weakest ever decade of the gloved era IMO as far as fighters and fights go so despite being spotty I think he has a shot. I think Lomachenko or Mayweather will officially get the award. Mayweather having bigger fights he gets an edge in addition to not getting it last time but his being retired for the last 5 years brings Loma in if he can add the IBF belt and say Berchelt.

Ward, Usyk and Crawford will be mentioned but not seriously considered IMO. Same for Canelo who'll suffer because most of his good wins people felt he lost and he's a convicted cheater. I don't think Joshua will be considered.

[The Big Dunn]

I think if you are going to point out that JMM-Pac III was very controversial due to the majority having JMM winning it's only fair to add that comment to Pacquaio-Bradley I and Horn. I had Marquez winning 116-112 and he did win but Pacquaio won no fewer than 9 rounds vs. Bradley for example.

I think a win over Thurman really puts him in the running. It's the weakest ever decade of the gloved era IMO as far as fighters and fights go so despite being spotty I think he has a shot. I think Lomachenko or Mayweather will officially get the award. Mayweather having bigger fights he gets an edge in addition to not getting it last time but his being retired for the last 5 years brings Loma in if he can add the IBF belt and say Berchelt.

Ward, Usyk and Crawford will be mentioned but not seriously considered IMO. Same for Canelo who'll suffer because most of his good wins people felt he lost and he's a convicted cheater. I don't think Joshua will be considered.

Fair point. I thought he beat Bradley clearly. The Horn fight he probably won as well.

I just don't see how you can go 12-4 in a decade and be in the running for FOTD just off a win against Thurman given the context-Thurman coming off a 22 month layoff.

Usyk , Ward and Crawford may not be considered but IMO they had a better decade. I left Canelo off due to the positive test. I don't think the writers will be as forgiving as the WBC.

[hugh grant]

You can't be serious. He lost to Horn. That isn't the same as losing to Morales. Even a delusional pac fan like yourself should be able to admit that.

Manny is 11-4 this decade with losses to Floyd (10-2 UD), Bradley, JMM (by KO) and Horn. Yes he beat Bradley 2x, JMM 1x (very controversial most had JMM winning) and some other good wins.

A win over Thurman doesn't make his decade superior to Floyd, Usyk, ward, Loma, AJ or Crawford.

You are completely delusional.

Where in the rule book does it say you cant be the FOTD, if you get robbed in other fighters countries, a couple of time, and get knocked out once?
Floyd never fought in anyones backyard so he doesn't even qualify as FOTD.
Floyd fans thought Floyd was too old to even mention floyds and Thurmans name in same sentence at 38 years old. So by floyds fans own admission Pac would be FOTD no question if he beats Thurman, at 40 and with 70 fights under belt and being a former flyweight.