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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
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For instance, because Canelo is a Superstar, boxing fans seem to forget that MANY other boxers can cut weight. Many boxing fans call that cheating, even in post 2010. Keep in mind, before 2010, boxers were still doing the same thing before advanced drug testing came along. Whether Munguia, Canelo, Jacobs, Lemieux, Hurd, Spence, can cut weight in 15+ pounds, many of these "knowledgeable" boxing fans don't know that the UFC or other MMA were cutting 25+lbs exceeding the norm in boxing.
The reason why MMA and Boxing is different, is that even though these sports aren't regulated consistently, boxing history has a more disciplined procedure in training than MMA. Therefore, it's more odd for boxers to cut weight drastically like MMA organizations. Assume that UFC was forced to contract with USADA when so many stars were popping dirty, then we KNOW that were being replenished with THINGS after rehydration for fight night. Conor McGregor is the last great MMA star who was draining 25+lbs like an Alvarado... all these things swept under the rug.
Now guys like Munguia, so young in age, proves how Canelo too was able to cut weight at a young age. The younger you are the more tolerance the body can take. Canelo from 147 fought really well, it's when Canelo fought at 150-155 were his laxed years. Now Canelo at 160 is a prime Canelo. I would agree with the many Canelo haters that he was a weight bully at Super Welterweight, but that's no different than Crawford gaining 18+lbs at 135 for fight night. Why boxing fans don't bring that up, all while Crawford who's way older than Canelo, walks around 170lbs.
So we all know weight draining in boxing is nothing new. As I mentioned earlier, this obscures perspective. Canelo is now 365. If in theory Canelo was a "Juicer" before his fighting Ring IQ wouldn't improve. Canelo keeps looking better every fight. Canelo haters just don't like to acknowledge how good he is, and that's all because he went pro at 15, so his intestinal fortitude is SOLID going in without fear. That gives him an edge to dish it out in fights.
Now regarding Clenbuterol. It's hard to say. Most boxing fans on this site are industry, and the industry goes know who each other are.
Know that no industry reporter talked about the Fracisco Vargas case, who was exonerated by Margaret Goodman of VADA, a fighter who was under Victor Conte, a fighter who had double of Canelo\s amounts. USADA too has exonerated several fighters under Clenbuterol. Also Canelo's trace amounts were depleted in 4 days consistently. Francisco Vargas wasn't tested 4 days apart.
It was all a witch hunt affiliation that revolved around the WBC and VADA to gain profits.
Most boxers all use Supplements which have guaranteed traces of contamination. The WBC and VADA exploited this.
The real reason why Canelo had his image smeared was because he didn't acknowledge the green belt and kept on refusing it. the WBC is an icon in Mexico. Canelo is also affiliated with Carlos Slim. This must have infuriated Mauricio Sulaiman as well as his VADA associates that Canelo doesn't need help from anyone... financially.
It's a dirty business. But I CAN GUARANTEE THAT ANY BOXER WHO IS NOT 365, AND IS TESTED OUTSIDE OF ANY FIGHT AGREEMENTS/CONTRACTS WILL HAVE TRACE AMOUNTS OF A BANNED SUBSTANCE!
That's the whole point why boxers don't do 365!!!! LMAO. It's common sense. Supplements have contamination. Promoters and advanced drug testing agencies have exploited the threshold amounts to make cases. For example Clenbuterol per one WADA Lab scientist said it should be allowed up to 2000 picograms. Clen is in cattle all around the world, so it does complicate the studies even more aside from supplement contaminations too. Trace levels are exploited too, but it also works. Paradox testing grounds.
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