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  • travestyny
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    #21
    Originally posted by 4truth
    Pac felt, and said so, that the USADA was for all practical purposes an agent of Golden Boy Promotions
    I think this is a myth. Manny was debating using USADA for his fight against Rios, so obviously he didn't have too much of a problem with them.

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      #22
      Marquez Wanted 50-50 Split, Blood Tests For Pacquiao
      By Mark Vester

      Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer told Sports Illustrated that he was approached on Thursday by Top Rank for a trilogy bout between Manny Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez. A shocking demand was made by Marquez. He requested a 50-50 split on the money with Pacquiao. For a guy chasing a Pacquiao trilogy since their 2008 rematch, Marquez found an amazing way to say "no thank you."

      In a move we all expected, Marquez, like Floyd Mayweather Jr., made a demand for random Olympic style drug tests. BoxingScene.com reported on December 24 that Marquez would demand random drug tests for a trilogy bout with Pacquaio.

      Schaefer told BoxingScene.com, also last month, that Pacquiao would have to take random blood tests for a fight with any Golden Boy Promotions fighter - and that includes Shane Mosley.

      Promoter Gary Shaw predicted this would happen during a December interview with BoxingScene. He said back then - "If he doesn't do the tests with Mayweather, I believe the only fights that Pacquiao will be able to get are with fighters who are with Top Rank. All other promoters are going to want to know that they are fighting on level playing field."

      Top Rank CEO Bob Arum told SI that he won't even consider any form of testing that is beyond what a state commission requires for any future fight with Pacquiao. He blames himself for making the mistake of even considering random blood testing during the Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiations. Pacquiao will now face another Joshua Clottey, also with Top Rank, on March 13.

      "This is beyond ******," said Arum. "That was my biggest mistake, allowing any of this to happen. I should have said no. We're not revisiting [blood testing]. We're not negotiating with these punks anymore. If Mayweather wants to fight Pacquiao down the road, he will have to go by the testing the state commission asks for. If not, life goes on."

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      • 4truth
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        #23
        Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
        That is your opinion. Mayweather helping clean up boxing by bringing in random testing is a fact. Pacquiao turning down 50% of the biggest fight in history because he didn't want to do drug testing, is (you guessed it) a FACT.
        Pac made that money anyway..fact. kinda makes one of your "facts" look rather weak and worthless.

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          #24
          Originally posted by 4truth
          Pac made that money anyway..fact. kinda makes one of your "facts" look rather weak and worthless.
          That fact supports the theory pac was a drug cheat. Not worthless at all FACT.

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            #25
            Originally posted by travestyny
            I think this is a myth. Manny was debating using USADA for his fight against Rios, so obviously he didn't have too much of a problem with them.
            Rios is hardly a boxing powerbroker unless I'm mistaken. why would the USADA overlook or not report a Rios failed test or give him a retroactive pass?

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              #26
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              That fact supports the theory pac was a drug cheat. Not worthless at all FACT.
              in robbie world maybe

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              • Kaspa9t9
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                #27
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                The flat fee was offered years into negotiations. The original offer was 50/50 with random testing. Don't even bother discussing if you don't know. Nobody can be bothered search out articles for a clueless guy that can't be bothered doing his own research.
                So you don't have a source? That's because you're making ish up. Well done bro

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Kaspa9t9
                  So you don't have a source? That's because you're making ish up. Well done bro
                  You see how nobody else is questioning it? That's because they know Mayweather offered 50/50 in the first offer. You don't so shouldn't be discussing the subject. Use google ffs you tard.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by 4truth
                    Rios is hardly a boxing powerbroker unless I'm mistaken. why would the USADA overlook or not report a Rios failed test or give him a retroactive pass?
                    Your posts seem to be saying that Pacquiao didn't trust USADA. But if he didn't trust USADA, why would he be looking to hire them for one of his fights? It doesn't make sense.

                    If you're saying that he believes USADA is crooked for some fighters but not others, depending on how much power they have, what would make him think that VADA or any other testing agency, or even the commission, would be any different? Or what about fear that the powerful Mayweather will get his evil henchmen USADA to frame Pac.

                    I, for one, can't recall ever hearing Pacaquaio saying anything negative about USADA. I do remember it being reported that he was thinking of hiring USADA, which is contradictory to your claim that he believed it was an evil entity controlled by Golden Boy.
                    Last edited by travestyny; 01-22-2019, 05:32 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
                      yet if you talk to non fan boys, they all blame floyd.
                      That's why you don't listen to fanboys and you make logical conclusions on your own.

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