Srs question, why did Manny Pacquiao turn down random blood testing back then?

[Bjl12]

So Im not a health care practitioner but you are eh? okay Lol! I dont have to prove anything to you and certainly dont have to open my private life here. I dont judge someone in this forum from thousands of miles away cause Im not a mug. But all of my posts are open for everyone to see and they can certainly evwn compare with yours too and they be the judge. Im confident with myself and my craft and I dont resort to name calling,unlike you.

Do not spread fake news and nonsense rhetoric because you want it to be true.

Floyd is an overrated fighter but an ATG. Manny is a fairly rated fighter and an ATG.

Head to head doesnt really mean much in grand scheme of ATG rankings despite what WhiteBreadMan thinks.

Floyd beat Manny in a horribly boring fight and while the decision was wide the actual fight was much closer than that.

No saline drips nor vitamin drips affected the outcome of the fight.

I also dont put much emphasis into the shoulder injury.

It doesn't matter in the grand scheme anyway

[tatot]

Nobody cares what you would do. You have no qualifications in medicine, sports, or specifically sports medicine.

Different saline drips are used for different things. If a physician - any physician - wrote off on a saline drip with vitamins than why are you literally crying?

There were no steroids or any form of PED used. So why are your panties all scuffed up??

Floyd took the tests and passed the tests. His 37 year old body was dehydrated. USADA granted him a TUE. He received an IV drip of saline and vitamins....

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It's honestly not more complicated than that

Plain Normal saline infusion or even bolus is the first choice to treat dehydration and not IV multivitamins and vitamin C unles it was indicated that he was deficient at that time (clearly he was not).Floyd was given TUE some weeks after the Pac fight not few weeks or few days before. Floyd took the Saline drip with multivitamins and vitamin c added affer the weigh in with his TUE application still pending for approval. Biased USADA did not think he had violated anything and subsequently gave him a pass maybe because his name was Floyd Mayweather and not Lance Armstrong.

At the end of the day, unreasonable Floyd’s fans would continue to defend Floyd and throw PEDS accusation at Pac regardless. The guy, who like Floyd, has never failed a drug test. Love him or hate him, he will be a first ballot HOF (just like Floyd) and would go down as one of the best (also just like Floyd).

[tatot]

Do not spread fake news and nonsense rhetoric because you want it to be true.

Floyd is an overrated fighter but an ATG. Manny is a fairly rated fighter and an ATG.

Head to head doesnt really mean much in grand scheme of ATG rankings despite what WhiteBreadMan thinks.

Floyd beat Manny in a horribly boring fight and while the decision was wide the actual fight was much closer than that.

No saline drips nor vitamin drips affected the outcome of the fight.

I also dont put much emphasis into the shoulder injury.

It doesn't matter in the grand scheme anyway

I dont spread lies or fake news. It was proven that he had used IV saline with multivitamins. Just trying to be reasonable cause you guys have been unreasonably bashing Pac as PEDS cheater withou any solid proof.

To be fair, both Floyd and Pac are the greatest in this era but I honestly think Mayweather has the edge(he beat Pac).

[travestyny]

Plain Normal saline infusion or even bolus is the first choice to treat dehydration and not IV multivitamins and vitamin C unles it was indicated that he was deficient at that time (clearly he was not).Floyd was given TUE some weeks after the Pac fight not few weeks or few days before. Floyd took the Saline drip with multivitamins and vitamin c added affer the weigh in with his TUE application still pending for approval. Biased USADA did not think he had violated anything and subsequently gave him a pass maybe because his name was Floyd Mayweather and not Lance Armstrong.

At the end of the day, unreasonable Floyd’s fans would continue to defend Floyd and throw PEDS accusation at Pac regardless. The guy, who like Floyd, has never failed a drug test. Love him or hate him, he will be a first ballot HOF (just like Floyd) and would go down as one of the best (also just like Floyd).

Why are you still going on with this whole Vitamin C thing? Vitamin C is given for general wellness and also to boost your immune system. It also can work as an anti-inflammatory, and no, it is not illegal and it does not mask for a urine test!!!

But you won't even address that. You just keep going on and on with your agenda. You want people to treat Pac fairly (no proof that he used PED's, and I agree with you), but you don't seem to want to extend the same thought process for Mayweather. You are just trying to go on with a "gotcha game" about whether he really needed Vitamin C or not.

So how about this.....just to shut you up.

Is Vitamin C used to treat allergies?

Did Mayweather write on his health record that he suffers from allergies?

Ok. Time for you to let it go. You have a valid reason for vitamin C.....AND IT'S ONLY VITAMIN C.

[Dosumpthin]

Why are you still going on with this whole Vitamin C thing? Vitamin C is given for general wellness and also to boost your immune system. It also can work as an anti-inflammatory, and no, it is not illegal and it does not mask for a urine test!!!

But you won't even address that. You just keep going on and on with your agenda. You want people to treat Pac fairly (no proof that he used PED's, and I agree with you), but you don't seem to want to extend the same thought process for Mayweather. You are just trying to go on with a "gotcha game" about whether he really needed Vitamin C or not.

So how about this.....just to shut you up.

Is Vitamin C used to treat allergies?

Did Mayweather write on his health record that he suffers from allergies?

Ok. Time for you to let it go. You have a valid reason for vitamin C.....AND IT'S ONLY VITAMIN C.

Vitamin C is a PED if Floyd uses it. Obviously.


Lol


The guy is a hack who claims I Vs are ONLY given for acute renal failure.


Smh.

[Boxing Goat]

Random testing is now a commonly accepted and respected standard in boxing.

But why did Pacquiao 10 years ago come up with every reason in the book to not give blood for a few years?

“It weakens me”
“It’s a disadvantage because I’m smaller”
“Don’t like needles”
“It’s an insult”
“Floyd just scared”
“Let the commission do its job”
Etc....

Why??? As boxing fans we cannot overlook this.

Because it was a brand new deal at the time that nobody had ever done in boxing and at the time came off as unreasonable.

[travestyny]

Vitamin C is a PED if Floyd uses it. Obviously.


Lol


The guy is a hack who claims I Vs are ONLY given for acute renal failure.


Smh.

Did he ever answer you about that? He just ran off last I saw.


It's ridiculous. These dudes just need to let it go already!

[tatot]

Vitamin C is a PED if Floyd uses it. Obviously.


Lol


The guy is a hack who claims I Vs are ONLY given for acute renal failure.


Smh.

I have already stated my case and you call me whatever you like I dont care. I am so done with both you and the other guy who said USADA’s main concern is fighter’s health and safety lmao!

[travestyny]

Because it was a brand new deal at the time that nobody had ever done in boxing and at the time came off as unreasonable.

I think you have this a little twisted.

Pacquiao agreed to be tested, so that's not the issue whether he was being asked to do something that wasn't commonly done. He said it was no problem.

The issue was that he wanted 24 days to recover from giving less than 2tbsps of blood....and 14 days to recover was a game breaker for him.


If you can make sense of needing 24 days to recover from giving 2tbsps of blood and 14 days being too little to recover, you deserve a medal.

[travestyny]

I have already stated my case and you call me whatever you like I dont care. I am so done with both you and the other guy who said USADA’s main concern is fighter’s health and safety lmao!

We know why you're done. I posted you the document stating that directly from WADA. Do you need it again

5. Consequences to Health if Treatment is Withheld
These will be dependent on the clinical situation. However, in case of a medical emergency, a possible consequence of withholding treatment could result in serious harm to health or even death. Therefore, the health and well-being of the athlete must always remain the priority. Consequently, when an IV infusion is considered by medical personnel as a potential treatment option, an athlete’s medical needs should be assessed in the same way as any other patient. If an athlete is judged by medical personnel to be clinically unstable and/or in an emergency situation, treatment with IV fluids should never be withheld on grounds that the method is on the List of Prohibited Substances and Methods.

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...1_july2018.pdf

This is why you get no respect. When presented with evidence that proves you're wrong, you ignore it and keep going with your agenda, all the while being on the "leave Manny alone" train.

Of course the athlete's health and safety is the #1 priority when dealing with The****utic Use. What the hell would you think it would be? That's the whole damn reason for a The****utic Use Exemption.