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  • tatot
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    #181
    Originally posted by travestyny
    So you are basing this on Mayweather not coming out saying that he suffered from Rhabdomyolysis? lol.

    Do you think he can even say the word? One of the side effects of Rhadbomyolysis is.....DEHYDRATION. That's what he said he suffered from, so his statement is correct. What's the problem?

    The point is that even if he was only dehydrated and they assumed that he could be suffering from Rhabdo, the proper cause of action for USADA to take would be to monitor him having an IV infusion. If not, then they risk taking the blame if he winds up like Stiverne. As long as they make sure he is not doping, then an IV infusion of saline and vitamins 24 hours before the fight is a non issue, which is why at face value it was never made illegal in boxing.




    Of course you don't want to talk about anyone else because it crushes your whole "I debunked" nonsense when you realize it is only based on Mayweahter not saying exactly what may be in his confidential medical record Just give it a rest. You can't disprove that he had that, and as long as you can't, you have to acknowledge that you can be wrong. Don't you agree?

    Beyond the reason that he took the IV, you fail miserably trying to prove it could have aided him to hide PED use. You went from vitamin c being used as a mask to IV fluid making you superman for 24 hours. It's sad that you're trying so hard to do what you claim Floyd fans do.
    I am not sure if you have misunderstood my statement jeez! I have clearly debunked your claim about Floyd’s rhabdo myth lol. You mentioned about Floyd may be suffering or may have suffered from Rhabdo and I asked for a proof if he was (no proof as expected) But here are follow up questions assuming he certainly had suffered from rhabdo. Did he pass dark tea or coke colored urine at all, muscle pains in the legs, shoulders? Did they say he was vomiting? Dude, Rhabdo is a serious and even life threatening condition and one should be seen by a doctor in ER immediately thats how serious it is from a medical perspective. Lemme repharse it, one can die from from complications like kidney failure and even cardiac arrest. Now, obviously, this isnt going anywhere cause you want me to say what you want to here and I dont back down or busge either eh? lol!

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      #182
      Originally posted by travestyny
      Stop. You make absolutely no sense.

      You don't use an IV to increase blood volume for over 24 hours! That's actually ******ed. And if you make me prove this to you, I will never stop laughing at you.

      Second, are you really asking me for the WADA prohibited list to check to see if saline is there or something? Are you serious?

      Dude, look it up yourself. Just fvvvcking google: "WADA Prohibited List." What is wrong with you?


      The specific gravity test is what is used to check for dilution. Please don't make me have to prove this to you. You keep digging your grave more and more. Just stop.
      I did not say just plain Saline, why dont you read my post punk! I was asking projibited substances like maybe multivitamins, vitamin c or other supplements or drugs not saline punk. There is no point arguing with you cause you are a ****ing unreasonable troll.

      I had enough of you genius. Have a nice day and may god bless you!
      Last edited by tatot; 01-24-2019, 01:10 PM.

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        #183
        Originally posted by tatot
        I did not say just plain Saline, why dont you read my post punk!
        Ohhh, so who is going with the insults now


        What happened? Couldn't keep up?

        You have no idea what the ffvvck you are talking about. You are actually idiotic when it comes to this topic. Just stop.

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          #184
          Originally posted by tatot
          I am not sure if you have misunderstood my statement jeez! I have clearly debunked your claim about Floyd’s rhabdo myth lol. You mentioned about Floyd may be suffering or may have suffered from Rhabdo and I asked for a proof if he was (no proof as expected)
          You gave no proof that he wasn't, while I provided you with symptoms that fit the bill, a plausible cause that fit the bill, and the appropriate response for recovery.

          And again, you've given nothing.


          Originally posted by tatot
          But here are follow up questions assuming he certainly had suffered from rhabdo. Did he pass dark tea or coke colored urine at all, muscle pains in the legs, shoulders?
          Actually . YESSSSSSS YOU FOOL!

          Jesus christ. How many times are you going to do this to yourself? Just stop.


          Originally posted by tatot
          Did they say he was vomiting? Dude, Rhabdo is a serious and even life threatening condition and one should be seen by a doctor in ER immediately thats how serious it is from a medical perspective. Lemme repharse it, one can die from from complications like kidney failure and even cardiac arrest. Now, obviously, this isnt going anywhere cause you want me to say what you want to here and I dont back down or busge either eh? lol!

          So again, what you are saying is that Stiverne couldn't have had it, though a doctor confirms that he did. But also, and more to the point, you're saying Junior Dos Santos couldn't have had it, even though he DID NOT have to go to an ER room. He went to get checked out on his own accord at the Nike clinic the morning AFTER the fight....because he passed extremely dark urine.


          What did Floyd say about his urine? Extremely dark. What did he say about his shoulders. Both injured.

          Thanks

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            #185
            Originally posted by tatot
            I did not say just plain Saline, why dont you read my post punk! I was asking projibited substances like maybe multivitamins, vitamin c or other supplements or drugs not saline punk. There is no point arguing with you cause you are a ****ing unreasonable troll.

            I had enough of you genius. Have a nice day and may god bless you!
            Dude, you wanted to check and see if Vitamin C is on WADA's prohibited list?????


            I'm actually the one that's done with you, you imbecile. Just log the fvvck off.


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              #186
              Originally posted by travestyny
              Stop. You make absolutely no sense.

              You don't use an IV to increase blood volume for over 24 hours! That's actually ******ed. And if you make me prove this to you, I will never stop laughing at you.

              Second, are you really asking me for the WADA prohibited list to check to see if saline is there or something? Are you serious?

              Dude, look it up yourself. Just fvvvcking google: "WADA Prohibited List." What is wrong with you?


              The specific gravity test is what is used to check for dilution. Please don't make me have to prove this to you (if that's something ur arguing against above, because I can't tell what the hell you are trying to say). You keep digging your grave more and more. Just stop.
              You have posted a
              link for everyone to interpret. And when I stated my interpretation you got ticked off and tried to downplay my opinion cause you wanted me to agree with your opinion which was dumb. You tried to justify Floyd’s dehydration excuse with Rhabdo assumption and even mentioned Stiverne, Dos Santos and Nike when in fact I was just asking for a proof he had a rhabdo lol!

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                #187
                Originally posted by tatot
                You have posted a
                link for everyone to interpret. And when I stated my interpretation you got ticked off and tried to downplay my opinion cause you wanted me to agree with your opinion which was dumb. You tried to justify Floyd’s dehydration excuse with Rhabdo assumption and even mentioned Stiverne, Dos Santos and Nike when in fact I was just asking for a proof he had a rhabdo lol!
                You also asked if he had the symptoms of rhabdo because you are too uninformed to have known already that he did, fool. lol. Silly goof up by you asking and not knowing that you were digging that grave more.


                Stop it already. Go check for Vitamin C on the prohibited list, you imbecile


                You're a complete moron. Look how you've embarrassed yourself here. I hope you learned your lesson.
                Last edited by travestyny; 01-24-2019, 01:34 PM.

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                • tatot
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                  #188
                  Originally posted by travestyny
                  You gave no proof that he wasn't, while I provided you with symptoms that fit the bill, a plausible cause that fit the bill, and the appropriate response for recovery.

                  And again, you've given nothing.




                  Actually . YESSSSSSS YOU FOOL!

                  Jesus christ. How many times are you going to do this to yourself? Just stop.





                  So again, what you are saying is that Stiverne couldn't have had it, though a doctor confirms that he did. But also, and more to the point, you're saying Junior Dos Santos couldn't have had it, even though he DID NOT have to go to an ER room. He went to get checked out on his own accord at the Nike clinic the morning AFTER the fight....because he passed extremely dark urine.


                  What did Floyd say about his urine? Extremely dark. What did he say about his shoulders. Both injured.

                  Thanks
                  Again, where is the proof of Rhabdo. You were the one assuming about this condition why would I provide anoroof you fool! lol! You were just making up Floyd’s symptoms where is the article to back it up tha he indeed suffered from this? None! You are making yourself look bad troll, I dont care about Stiverne or Dos santos or nike. We were talking about Floyd’s alleged rhabdo and you cant provide any proof.

                  Everyone can read all our posts and I bet you’re fellow *****S would gang up on me cause, like you, they’re fcuking unreasonable too lol!

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                  • tatot
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by travestyny
                    Stop it already. Go check for Vitamin C on the prohibited list, you imbecile


                    You're a complete moron. Look how you've embarrassed yourself here. I hope you learned your lesson.
                    You’re a ****ing imbecile and full of **** lol! I dont learn any lesson from a ****ing moron like you, you’re full of it!🍼🤮

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                      #190
                      Originally posted by tatot
                      You’re a ****ing imbecile and full of **** lol! I dont learn any lesson from a ****ing moron like you, you’re full of it!🍼🤮
                      Did your feelings get hurt? LMAO.


                      Another mental meltdown. Spoon23, is that you?

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