Srs question, why did Manny Pacquiao turn down random blood testing back then?

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  • Dosumpthin
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    #61
    Originally posted by tatot
    Dude, why dont you look up the article by Dan Rafael so you have facts not just ****** speculations. In fairness, Floyd got tested the night before the Pac fight but not right after the IV infusion. His excuse was dehydration and like I said, the red flag was why IV saline with multivitamins and Vitamin C?
    False.

    No matter how many times I say it, you missed the point.

    Floyd gave a urine sample IMMEDIATELY before and after.

    Read it again.

    Before.

    After.

    Not 3 days later. Not a month before.


    IMMEDIATELY BEFORE.

    IMMEDIATELY AFTER.


    Both samples are combined as per WADA rules and tested.

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    • tatot
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      #62
      Originally posted by Dosumpthin
      False.

      No matter how many times I say it, you missed the point.

      Floyd gave a urine sample IMMEDIATELY before and after.

      Read it again.

      Before.

      After.

      Not 3 days later. Not a month before.


      IMMEDIATELY BEFORE.

      IMMEDIATELY AFTER.


      Both samples are combined as per WADA rules and tested.
      Where is the article that says right before and right after. Back up your claims with facts.

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        #63
        Originally posted by tatot
        Dude, why dont you look up the article by Dan Rafael so you have facts not just ****** speculations. In fairness, Floyd got tested the night before the Pac fight but not right after the IV infusion. His excuse was dehydration and like I said, the red flag was why IV saline with multivitamins and Vitamin C?
        You want to go down this road with me???

        Ok let's talk specifics. Point out any part of my post that is SPECULATION.

        I'll provide the necessary links.

        Then I will request the same as you.


        Lets see who is speaking facts vs speculation.

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        • tatot
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          #64
          Originally posted by Dosumpthin
          Do you have proof he used an IV?

          Seems you still missed the point.

          Floyd gave a sample BEFORE the IV. Therefore the IV was not used to mask a substance.
          Yes there is a proof, I just said you look up Dan Rafael’s article regarding his IV use. Do you want me to look it up for you? lol! Masking attempt would have been right after the IV insfusion, nit before understand?? jeez!

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            #65
            Originally posted by tatot
            Yes there is a proof, I just said you look up Dan Rafael’s article regarding his IV use. Do you want me to look it up for you? lol! Masking attempt would have been right after the IV insfusion, nit before understand?? jeez!
            No I don't.

            Are you saying Floyd did NOT provide a urine sample BEFORE using the IV.

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              #66
              Pacquiao was on PED you have to be ******* to not see it

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              • tatot
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                #67
                Originally posted by Dosumpthin
                No I don't.

                Are you saying Floyd did NOT provide a urine sample BEFORE using the IV.
                You’re case is invalid. Where is your proof that pee sample was collected before the IV infusion. Even if he did, you have to collect a pee sample right after the infusion to try and catch other agents/substances. My first point was, Floyd might’ve taken the Saline with Multivitamins and Vitamin C to mask something. Second point, why would he take multivitamins and Vitamin C intravenously if he was just dehydrated??

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                • Dosumpthin
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by tatot
                  Yes there is a proof, I just said you look up Dan Rafael’s article regarding his IV use. Do you want me to look it up for you? lol! Masking attempt would have been right after the IV insfusion, nit before understand?? jeez!
                  FYI, for the sake of speeding things up -

                  Dan Rafeals article, like every other media outlet on Sept 10th, referenced "Can Boxing Trust USADA" as his source of information.

                  Often refered to as "ACCORDING TO THE SB NATION REPORT" - the article was written by Thomas Hauser.

                  Within the first paragraph, Thomas Hauser FALSELY reports that USADA DCO discovered evidence of an IV.


                  This is what sent shockwaves through the boxing community. "Floyd was caught using an IV"

                  AGAIN THIS IS FALSE.

                  THOMAS HAUSER ACKNOWLEDGED HE INCORRECTLY REPORTED THIS FALSE INFORMATION.





                  See where this is going???



                  Every article that references the Sept 9th SB Nation article, Thomas Hauser or "Can Boxing Trust USADA" is reporting on FLASE INFORMATION......







                  Still want to go down this road???? Or are you going to disappear like the rest of the pact@rds when it's time to show and prove???

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                  • tatot
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Dosumpthin
                    You want to go down this road with me???

                    Ok let's talk specifics. Point out any part of my post that is SPECULATION.

                    I'll provide the necessary links.

                    Then I will request the same as you.


                    Lets see who is speaking facts vs speculation.
                    Bring it on dude, where are your links or articles to back up your claims? Look up Dan Rafael’s article about Floyd’s IV use ap you understand what I was talking about lol!

                    You guys have been bashing and accusing PAC who never failed any drug tests and never had any valid red flags or even tried to take anything to have an advantage or imply he was cheating or have attempted to cheat. All you guys have was all baseless accusations who by the way was ignited by Floyd like Pac had asked a cut off, Pac said he was petrified of needles cause it weakens him, no KO after random
                    tests have implemented blah blah blah! You guys failed or have chosen to ignore Floyd’s violation of taking IV infusion that might’ve given him a potential advantage. You guys need to leave Pac alone.🍼

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                    • Dosumpthin
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by tatot
                      You’re case is invalid. Where is your proof that pee sample was collected before the IV infusion. Even if he did, you have to collect a pee sample right after the infusion to try and catch other agents/substances. My first point was, Floyd might’ve taken the Saline with Multivitamins and mooVitamin C to mask something. Second point, why would he take multivitamins and Vitamin C intravenously if he was just dehydrated??
                      Huh?

                      If the IV is the masking agent...wouldn't he have to use the IV BEFORE providing a urine sample?


                      WTF?


                      Good Pact@rds are hard to find nowadays.

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