GGG is being forced into retirement

[TonyGe]

u know what sub means and euro means, dont kid yourself.

i'm not claiming 36 is prime, i am saying its post prime. If you have an issue with someone elses figures talk to them about it, not me. I'm not the vent for your frustrations with others.

Yeah he was prime at age 28. I think he was a better fighter at 28 physically and his with his technique. I don't think Sanchez did much except change his style to a more fan friendly one. He always had a great jab, he always had the power. Sanchez changed his style to block with his gloves more don't move your head as much and stay balanced. Which is good but not as popular with judges. If I still had the link I would post it. It's a trainer explaining why that style doesn't always work in the modern age of scoring. He claims that West Coast fighters are trained to throw lots of punches in combination because it's too hard for judges to determine which ones don't land clean or barely miss. They usually get the benefit of the doubt. They have a built in advantage with judges. I think he's right. This is just my opinion and yours is valid not trying to pick a fight here just giving a different take on this. I've always had aproblem with Sanchez's philosophy of "We don't adjust to our opponent we force him to adjust to us. How often do you see videos coming from Big Bear where Golovkin is doing something other than hitting the mitts with power?? One of the reasons he only won a world title at age 34 is he was avoided by Strum then had to restart again when he moved to the US.

This is what you said and I don't agree.
wasnt prime at 28 for sure, he was subeuro then, fighting at subeurolevel all the time. He obviously bloomed late if he was only winning a world title at 34.

[nacho daddy]

Yeah it's caught up with him, he never committed to fighting great fighters, was only interested if they were smaller than him.

you mean like hagler did??

[Thuglife Nelo]

Thread Title -

1.) Canelo was stay busy to Dec. 1
2.) Unification Cinco de Mayo

Vs

GGG

4 months looking for network offers. can’t sell Mexican dates on his own. Was chess matching with Canelo aka the eye test. Canelo wasn’t hurt. Canelo showed two different styles.

This thread... Thread starter got a point. GGG fans in denial

[DreamFighter]

Yeah he was prime at age 28. .

sure his physical prime is his 20s, but the skill to come with it came later.

.. in his 20s he was only able to KO multiple bums and win a bum title. You forget that he became pro quite late, so he developed slower than someone starting earlier, its commonsense.

In his early 30s he won a world title in the ring.

The difference is marked.

[Thuglife Nelo]

sure his physical prime is his 20s, but the skill to come with it came later.

.. in his 20s he was only able to KO multiple bums and win a bum title. You forget that he became pro quite late, so he developed slower than someone starting earlier, its commonsense.

In his early 30s he won a world title in the ring.

The difference is marked.

They don’t understand that a 28 year old PRIME Canelo smokes a 28 year old Golovkin. A 36 year old Canelo beats a 36 year old GGG, and avoiding tough fights benefits longevity

[DreamFighter]

coming from Big Bear where Golovkin is doing something other than hitting the mitts with power??

power which mysteriously disappears when hes fighting someone good.
so why doesnt he learn another approach if its not good enough at top level. Perhasp you mean hes just not capable of reaching that next level.

One of the reasons he only won a world title at age 34 is he was avoided by Strum

yeh Sturm is the reason why another human being doesnt win a title until they are 34. Its someone elses fault! Read some of the rubbish you write.

Hagler is a man who was avoided, and he finished an ATG career a full two years before he turned 34. But its Sturms fault that Golovkin didnt! Golovkin was given two titles without throwing a punch, he was treated SO UNFAIR! oh boohoo.

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Boy that's a bit dramatic. They had two fights and in the polls I've seen a majority had Golovkin winning both.

After that it's just business maneuvering.

I don't think anyone's confidence was destroyed.

[DreamFighter]

They don’t understand that a 28 year old PRIME Canelo smokes a 28 year old Golovkin. A 36 year old Canelo beats a 36 year old GGG, and avoiding tough fights benefits longevity

it might be true, but we'll never know because ONE of them wasnt bothering to fight anyone till he turned 34.

thus giving his fans a free pass to claim "he would have".

well if my name would have been Marvin Hagler I'd be in Italy stuck between two hot buns!

[QueensburyRules]

--- Last I checked he's playing the big shots off each other to double his substantial career earnings.

Not bad for a poor boy from Ukraine.

[TonyGe]

power which mysteriously disappears when hes fighting someone good.
so why doesnt he learn another approach if its not good enough at top level. Perhasp you mean hes just not capable of reaching that next level.

yeh Sturm is the reason why another human being doesnt win a title until they are 34. Its someone elses fault! Read some of the rubbish you write.

Hagler is a man who was avoided, and he finished an ATG career a full two years before he turned 34. But its Sturms fault that Golovkin didnt! oh boohoo.

He's not being taught another approach that's my point. If he had some of those skills they have been allowed to rust away. Sanchez was pissed at him after the rematch for not fighting Canelo toe to toe even thought Canelo has faster hands and a great chin. In other words stick to the system. To me that's not indicative of a trainer that is flexible or trains his fighters to be more versatile. If he wanted Golovkin to maul and brawl him you'd think some of that would have shown up in videos out of the gym.