Comments Thread For: Hearn Prepared To Win Purse Bid For Wilder-Fury Rematch

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Maybe he figures that if it did go to purses he'd like to see other promoters empty their bank accounts?

Or maybe it's just Eddie being brash and controversial. And we keep on watching him!

Well there is NO way it would go to a purse bid now. I mean Frank warren would rather Tyson Fury make 10m dollars in that rematch than him getting 20m from DAZN/Hearn, thats how bitter that guy is lol.

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It’s intriguing reviewing Hearns comments in relation to the WBC ordering a purse bid at a certain point in time. He said that it’s good to hurry things along. I’m not sure that match needs to be hurried along these two competitors haven’t been wasting time in getting a fight together, so what’s the motivation behind Hearns interest in the direction of Fury Wilder II. Why is he so bent on being involved now after all that he has said since these 2 started their dialogue around the original match in Q3 2018. I guess it’s clear Fury Wilder II disrupts matchrooms plans for Joshua and they certainly won’t want to decide on their date until something comes back in relation to Wilder/Fury. What does this tell us about the state off play in the heavyweight division? It’s clear that the biggest fight now 2019 is Fury vs Wilder II basically AJ is not the top dog at the moment it’s highly likely that Joshua’s revenue will be a lot less than Fury vs Wilder II

[Toffee]

I guess it’s clear Fury Wilder II disrupts matchrooms plans for Joshua and they certainly won’t want to decide on their date until something comes back in relation to Wilder/Fury. What does this tell us about the state off play in the heavyweight division? It’s clear that the biggest fight now 2019 is Fury vs Wilder II basically AJ is not the top dog at the moment it’s highly likely that Joshua’s revenue will be a lot less than Fury vs Wilder II

Of course it disrupts Joshua and Matchroom.

But you're drawing a long bow to say that makes it the biggest fight. AJ v Wilder is still the biggest fight and AJ is still the top dog, both in ranking and money terms.

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Of course it disrupts Joshua and Matchroom.

But you're drawing a long bow to say that makes it the biggest fight. AJ v Wilder is still the biggest fight and AJ is still the top dog, both in ranking and money terms.

Not quite accurate currently the biggest fight being made is wilder vs fury II. Think about that for a second Joshua cannot get a bigger fight by himself he has to fight one of these two then yes that fight may make even more money but as it stands the equation is simple Joshua isn’t the biggest draw at this point in time because who ever he fights outside of fury and wilder will generate less then their rematch. When the numbers are compared on Joshua’s next fight don’t be suprised if they are lower than fury vs wilder II can you imagine how that makes matchroom feel that a heavyweight fight that doesn’t involve Joshua will generate more than his next fight with a b class opposition. That’s the point I’m making I’m not sure I can make it any clearer. I agree Joshua is a higher rank and earns a lot but all that will turn on its head this year. When you look at the landscape you look behind you and when I look at the landscape I’m look straight ahead.

[Toffee]

Not quite accurate currently the biggest fight being made is wilder vs fury II. Think about that for a second Joshua cannot get a bigger fight by himself he has to fight one of these two then yes that fight may make even more money but as it stands the equation is simple Joshua isn’t the biggest draw at this point in time because who ever he fights outside of fury and wilder will generate less then their rematch. When the numbers are compared on Joshua’s next fight don’t be suprised if they are lower than fury vs wilder II can you imagine how that makes matchroom feel that a heavyweight fight that doesn’t involve Joshua will generate more than his next fight with a b class opposition. That’s the point I’m making I’m not sure I can make it any clearer. I agree Joshua is a higher rank and earns a lot but all that will turn on its head this year. When you look at the landscape you look behind you and when I look at the landscape I’m look straight ahead.

As far as I'm concerned there are a number of fights "being made" right now. Offers are flying around, negotiations are happening.

Of those fights, AJ v Wilder is the biggest and it can happen.

If Fury and Wilder sign on then, yes, that will be a massive fight. It will outdo Joshua. But the main effect is that the eventual winner against Joshua just becomes an even bigger fight.

Joshua holds three belts. He's young. He's number one ranked. He's one of the biggest draws in the game. He's not moving backwards if other fighters gain... his undisputed fight is just getting bigger and bigger off the back of others improving their ability to bring more to the table.

If it takes 2 and 3 sorting out their rank before they get to number one then so be it. But you don't usurp number one until you fight him.

[that g]

If he really wants to bid for it then why make your intentions known to the public? You could have shocked everyone by going to the purse bid (If the fight goes to purse bid) and winning it. Now both Warren/Finkel/Haymon are on high alert. This fight would never go to a purse bid. Warren would rather give Team Wilder everything they want than Hearn winning the purse bid and putting the fight on DAZN. For the boxers its great if it goes to purse bid because they would make triple the money that they would have expect to make if it doesn't go to a purse bid.

either way, he wins. if it goes to purse bids, he likely wins, because he has dazn money to use. that's the ultimate troll moment in this.

if the wilder and fury camps wise up and reach a deal, then it ensures that whoever puts on the fight definitely shells out huge money, and fury gets his 50-50 with wilder. that has to piss wilder off. hearn still wins there in a way, because AJ can fight big baby miller in msg for a great US debut.

the only way either wilder or fury can get out of this fight is to make a fight with AJ. eddie still wins.

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As far as I'm concerned there are a number of fights "being made" right now. Offers are flying around, negotiations are happening.

Of those fights, AJ v Wilder is the biggest and it can happen.

If Fury and Wilder sign on then, yes, that will be a massive fight. It will outdo Joshua. But the main effect is that the eventual winner against Joshua just becomes an even bigger fight.

Joshua holds three belts. He's young. He's number one ranked. He's one of the biggest draws in the game. He's not moving backwards if other fighters gain... his undisputed fight is just getting bigger and bigger off the back of others improving their ability to bring more to the table.

If it takes 2 and 3 sorting out their rank before they get to number one then so be it. But you don't usurp number one until you fight him.

I agree with some of what you are saying Joshua is #1 that’s not what I’m discussing I’m talking about the change in the landscape. It could even be argued that Fury is #1 until he is beaten and that Joshua needs to beat Fury to declare himself the true #1 it could be also said in reverse.

The point is traditionally the biggest fight in the division is the main guy #1 think like Mayweather era. It didn’t matter who he fought that would be the biggest fight. If the others fight it didn’t matter Mayweather would always be the biggest fight even if he fought a second rate fighter. That’s what is different here Joshua can only trump wilder vs fury numbers by facing one of these two now the implications of that is a massive leverage in terms of negotiations it means that the power no longer simply rests in the champions hands. It’s not exactly like they have AJ over a barrel which it isn’t but he has lost something that isn’t quite tangible.

Moving forward from this point in time is where it matters all the three big heavyweights will be judged on the opposition they face in the next 2 years.

In my opinion regardless of the rankings Fury #1 and he will take Joshua to school with his boxing smarts. That will upset the Joshua fans but it’s only an opinion. I wonder what the TBRB will rank fury if he beats wilder in their rematch don’t be suprised if he becomes #1