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  • Batfink
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    #61
    Down the garden path we go

    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
    Joshua has been trying to negotiate with Wilder since the Fury fight. Wilder and his team have been ignoring him. We've known when Joshua will fight next for months. Keep up to date instead of talking nonsense and looking like an idiot.
    Interestingly must have touched a nerve and certainly isn’t a reason to get personal. I would have thought that perhaps some people on this forum had an informed opinion and kept track of the media spin. I have to look at these events unfolding using an impartial perspective and although things may seem like matchroom are working to seal a wilder fight it’s little more than a gesture. What is certain is that now that gesture has translated into an actual offer worth considering as they have publicly declared a split which is arguably fair or acceptable. The timing however isn’t great and smells su****iously like desperation. Considering the words and rhetoric that matchroom spew out surely you can see the inconsistency in their message. There was a time they said wilders a nobody even after the fury fight and said he is worthless not even close to Joshua’s revenue and now that message has changed to he brings a lot to the table so is worth 60/40 and this was offered after the WBC declared if fury/wilder II goes to purse bids its 60/40 is that a coincidence?

    Consider for a second that both fury and wilder have been vocal about a rematch and still matchroom attempt to scupper that match to save their date.

    To be completely fair to matchroom they have to wait now and they arnt in the business of waiting hence why the toys have been thrown out the pram. They missed an opportunity of facing wilder when he came to secure a bout around the time Joshua was facing Povetkin. They even refused him entry into that fight to challenge Joshua. Further on during the fury wilder match Joshua had an opportunity to be present ringside and call out both fights and declare his intent.

    Matchroom have been rather reactive and not proactive and as a result have started to take notice of fury and wilder as the negative publicity against them and Joshua has ramped up.

    All this posturing by matchroom is simply a David Copperfield show albeit their hand has now been forced.

    Equally time will tell how much wilder/fury fancy a chance atJoshua after their rematch is done...

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    • Robbie Barrett
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      #62
      Originally posted by Batfink
      Interestingly must have touched a nerve and certainly isn’t a reason to get personal. I would have thought that perhaps some people on this forum had an informed opinion and kept track of the media spin. I have to look at these events unfolding using an impartial perspective and although things may seem like matchroom are working to seal a wilder fight it’s little more than a gesture. What is certain is that now that gesture has translated into an actual offer worth considering as they have publicly declared a split which is arguably fair or acceptable. The timing however isn’t great and smells su****iously like desperation. Considering the words and rhetoric that matchroom spew out surely you can see the inconsistency in their message. There was a time they said wilders a nobody even after the fury fight and said he is worthless not even close to Joshua’s revenue and now that message has changed to he brings a lot to the table so is worth 60/40 and this was offered after the WBC declared if fury/wilder II goes to purse bids its 60/40 is that a coincidence?

      Consider for a second that both fury and wilder have been vocal about a rematch and still matchroom attempt to scupper that match to save their date.

      To be completely fair to matchroom they have to wait now and they arnt in the business of waiting hence why the toys have been thrown out the pram. They missed an opportunity of facing wilder when he came to secure a bout around the time Joshua was facing Povetkin. They even refused him entry into that fight to challenge Joshua. Further on during the fury wilder match Joshua had an opportunity to be present ringside and call out both fights and declare his intent.

      Matchroom have been rather reactive and not proactive and as a result have started to take notice of fury and wilder as the negative publicity against them and Joshua has ramped up.

      All this posturing by matchroom is simply a David Copperfield show albeit their hand has now been forced.

      Equally time will tell how much wilder/fury fancy a chance atJoshua after their rematch is done...
      Hearn made the offers at the weekend, the WBC order happened yesterday. Again keep up to date or look like an idiot.

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      • AdonisCreed
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        #63
        This is a smart move by Hearn whether you like him or not. It's a smart business move and he's putting a little pressure on Fury and Wilder. Even if Hearn is bluffing he's getting under their skin at the very least.

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          #64
          The integrity of the fox

          Originally posted by BigStomps
          LoL, quit hating you fool!
          I'm no fan of Eddie Hearn but what's wrong with him bidding on the Fury-Wilder fight??
          It's a great fight that'll make money so allot of promoters want in on the action....
          What's wrong with that??
          I’m not hating I’m simply declaring the irony. Isn’t it amusing how things have changed rewind back to all Hearns interviews before the fury wilder I and then after the fight. It was negative and su****iously defensive. Before the fight it wouldn’t happen and after the fight he said it was aweful and did terrible numbers and now they want to compete in a purse bid ... now if you don’t find that funny I guess you never saw Pinocchio as a child.

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            #65
            1 dementianal

            Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
            Hearn made the offers at the weekend, the WBC order happened yesterday. Again keep up to date or look like an idiot.
            I guess the loquacious, verbose, chatty lack the vocabulary to articulate their sentiments with a degree of elegance I guess when you only look at the water you can never see what’s going on underneath. Focusing on the pedantic elements are an optical illusion that simply detract from taking in the larger picture. I guess the only way he could have found out is by reading a tabloid paper ... the same singular paper that teaches many how to read and write albeit not very well...
            Last edited by Batfink; 01-17-2019, 03:58 PM.

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            • AdonisCreed
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              #66
              I don't see it going to purse bid I think Fury and Wilder will come to an agreement. BUT if this went to purse bid that would be crazy to see what Hearn does!!

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                #67
                Originally posted by AdonisCreed
                This is a smart move by Hearn whether you like him or not. It's a smart business move and he's putting a little pressure on Fury and Wilder. Even if Hearn is bluffing he's getting under their skin at the very least.
                I find it a little slimy if you ask me he should just focus on his own stable and leave those boys to sort it out but it is getting dirty now with him poking his nose into other peoples business. He can like all promotors submit a bid if it gets to that stage and not sure it would get under their skin more like make them laugh as he’s gone from not wanting anything from them to not being able to live without them.

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                • Lazy Jab
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                  #68
                  This is just urging them to make a deal already so he can announce Ajs next opponent. "Hey we tried to secure Fury or Wilder blah blah, nobody else was available so we went BLANK who is a tremendous fighter blah"

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                  • Lazy Jab
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                    Wilder beating the #2 doesn't leapfrog the #1. That's why Joshua is still universally recognised as the #1 by every boxing site.
                    Ok. What makes AJ #1? Also I wouldn't rate Wilder over AJ..I dont. Aj was #1 head n shoulders above the division, with wilder a clear #2..ONLY by resume because the fight never happened. Now Fury's back in the mix, beating Wilder who is highly rated is enough to rate him as #1. With Aj unable to face either we have to rate them by resumes. You see what I'm saying?

                    I'll entertain the thought that Aj is in fact the #1 n hes only secured that spot by avoiding the #2. N he'll continue to be if doesn't abandon that model. Or we can say Aj has yet to face an opponent rated as high as Wilder..n fury did n won.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Lazy Jab
                      Ok. What makes AJ #1? Also I wouldn't rate Wilder over AJ..I dont. Aj was #1 head n shoulders above the division, with wilder a clear #2..ONLY by resume because the fight never happened. Now Fury's back in the mix, beating Wilder who is highly rated is enough to rate him as #1. With Aj unable to face either we have to rate them by resumes. You see what I'm saying?

                      I'll entertain the thought that Aj is in fact the #1 n hes only secured that spot by avoiding the #2. N he'll continue to be if doesn't abandon that model. Or we can say Aj has yet to face an opponent rated as high as Wilder..n fury did n won.
                      Wlad was rated #2 when Joshua fought him. He established himself as #1 while Fury was out. That #1 spot is Joshua's you're going to have to beat him or do a lot to take it.

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