Now that it has been proven that Wilder is ducking....
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So, because you talk about some Mendoza cat from hundreds of years ago makes it right for Wilder to duck today?Sure there aren't.
You know better because you listened to a promoter and broadcastor right Mark?
In regards to US history, do you know why America controls boxing today? No? The **** are you talking to me about US HWs for then?
Am I repeating **** you hear on the LDBC or any other Wilder fan? They talk about Mendoza do they? No? Hmm.
Are you repeating **** I hear out of every ****sucker who calls themselves a Joshua fan? Hmm.
Oh there's a chance I missed your information is there? No son, I have youtube too. There's a big chance you've never cracked a ****in' book though isn't there? One of us has more information at their disposal, huh?
One of us is an ignorant ***** with a big mouth. The other is an old man with nothing but time to waste. Keep going all you like.
I don't come on here talking about internal combustion engines trying to make my point about Wilder being a ducker, and then claiming it somehow makes my point.
You're as lost as a lamb in a hailstorm you f&%$ing loon.Last edited by Froch_uppercut; 01-17-2019, 10:52 AM.Comment
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You should, you are ******.
I'm going to go out to my factory where I will explain to my employees what they need to do to create the proper prosthetic for my patients.
I'll be sure to feel real ****** because the folks I call dummies online struggle to follow what I wrote for them.
You're cute Robbie. Like a little kid. Not much else though.
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Yes, Mendoza is directly connected to Wilder. He's directly connect to all of boxing.So, because you talk about some Mendoza cat from hundreds of years ago makes it right for Wilder to duck today?
I don't come on here talking about internal combustion engines trying to make my point about Wilder being a ducker, and then claiming it somehow makes my point.
You're as lost as a lamb in a hailstorm you f&%$ing loon.
An ICE has nothing to do with boxing let alone Hearn, Wilder, or Joshua.
You can tell me what you think all you like. I didn't mention any opinion outside of you being a mark, Mark. I am telling you what I know.
It isn't my opinion Mendoza School has weight. It is history.
If we were talking about gloves Mace would be a valid character.
When talking about democracy rome is valid. When talking about boxing Mendoza is not?
you're a silly silly child.
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Yeah, you really showed us how Wilder is not ducking Joshua, it's crystal clear now.
At least you had the balls to get on this thread and have an attempt to defend the basketball hype job, I don't see any other Wilder fools still with the energy (or the ******ity) to try and defend him.
It's hard to argue with an imbecile, and someone who is proud of the fact that they read books, like it is some sort of unique thing to do LMAO, and yet who spells 'too' as 'two' in a sentence.
Stop it, my sides are hurting you loon, and I'm destroying you in front of your friends.Comment
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So you reckon both Wilder and AJ are doing this to drum up as much dislike for eachother from the fans to generate more interst the "Mendoza way" just business basically?
Holy **** bud.
Reckon I'll just let that go, but this ain't the first time I've referred to history on this subject.
I talk about Daniel The *** Mendoza a lot because he's very very important and no one knows a damn thing about him.
Joshua getting under your skin? That's a bit of Mendoza School.
Don't like Mayweather's ****? Mendoza School.
Think it's funny that Wilder can't say athleticism to save his ass? Mendoza School.
Daniel The *** Mendoza was HW champion in the 1790s. Look him up. Take him seriously and get you ass onto something with a little more than a wiki overview.
Once you are comfortable with your Mendoza history come back to me and then tell me you believe Eddie Hearn as much as you had prior or even at all.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck it's probably a duck isn't it? Well, what if you lived in a world where no one knows what a duck is and would rather argue over whether the creature is a breed of platypus or some kind of chicken then just look up a duck? My world bubba. It's ****ing sad.
Mendoza is only the origin of trickery and sales. If you really want the dirty truth look into the 1830s-1850s shift from England to America. That's when Mendoza's strategies are used most often.
Finally I'll leave you with this. Outside of Richard K. Fox, Tex Richard, and Don King what promoter has brought something new to the table? Yeah and those three all center around black boxing becoming mainstream. Outside of colorline influenced promoters can you name me a single one who ever came up with anything that worked so well it then became industry standard? Mendoza didn't leave much room for improvement bubba. You really should know as much as you can about him.
edit- Also, he's English. Y'all take pride in being the origins of the sport don't you? Well, son, Figg and Mace don't have **** on Mendoza. He should be a hero over there....hell he's a hero to me and I ain't english a lick nor ***ish none. Figg up to Mendoza are all ****houses. Mendoza is the true godfather of boxing....I promise, get you a book and you'll like it.Comment
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Yeah, you really showed us how Wilder is not ducking Joshua, it's crystal clear now.
At least you had the balls to get on this thread and have an attempt to defend the basketball hype job, I don't see any other Wilder fools still with the energy (or the ******ity) to try and defend him.
It's hard to argue with an imbecile, and someone who is proud of the fact that they read books, like it is some sort of unique thing to do LMAO, and yet who spells 'too' as 'two' in a sentence.
Stop it, my sides are hurting you loon, and I'm destroying you in front of your friends.
I never claimed I'd be showing you anything but where to look.
I never exalted the fact that I read books I just pointed out a willful ignorance on your part.
I clearly want you to read books as well....and then tell me about them.
Is it not possible that I'm just tired of dealing in surface level knowledge and just want to push young people into learning a little bit more about the subjects they argue so vehemently about?
You're projecting quite a lot onto me bubba. Just go read Mendoza and then come back and thank me for pushing you into it.
What do you have to lose? You might learn something?Comment
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They really should just leave me to you.
Similar to. like I told SeGoodland Mendoza's the origin. I don't want y'all to get too bogged down with comparing Mendoza to the present but rather understanding Mendoza. The real comparative comes in the 1830s-1850s but it really is not needed so long as you understand Mendoza School and recognize it. It's more in what Mendoza taught that is important than what Mendoza did himself as a fighter.
The real dirty secret behind Mendoza School is the exact same as how dictators work. Making the audience willful participants in things that do not benefit them but rather detract from their natural position.
We all know we can have this fight. We can have it whenever the **** we want it. All we need is the fans, both sides in equal vehmency, pushing for it rather than blaming the other side. Notice, I didn't actually blame anyone other than fans for being doop'd by a very old trick. I do not feel like it's Eddie or Shelly or Frank's fault every single time one of them says jump the fanbases say how high.
From the 1830s through the 50s you'll see why England was stripped of its position as the mecca of boxing. You'll also see the absolute height of blaming the other side for fights not happening in boxing history. It's because Mendoza's Mendoza School got too successful. People were too willing to listen to their champion's excuses.
There's only one answer as to why the fans would shoot themselves in the foot. Being right is far more important than the fight itself. Mendoza isn't simply pissing his audience off, he's letting them believe what they already believed.....like a dictator rallying his people. Like Hearn, Shelly, and Warren, like all promoters do now.
I need to wrap this up, I've **** to do.
I don't pretend to know what ends the parties aim for. I don't mean to imply Hearn is building the fight or that Hearn and Finkle are working together in a scripted sort of way. I don't know their motivations, but, I do know if both parties are being 100% honest with us this would be the first time in HW history, 686BC-Now, that was the case.
Every other time in history it was Mendoza School at work.
I don't mean to say Wilder-Joshua is similar to Mendoza-Humphries. I mean to say once they retired and all their laundry becomes their only means of making money, they're old men telling us what we didn't know when they were active kings, if neither side has no changes to the story that admit to ulterior motives for the delay it would be the first time that was ever the case.
It may not be Mendoza-Humphries. It may not be Ward-Burke. It may not be Molyneaux-Cribb, or Mayweather-Pacquiao, but it certainly is Mendoza School.Comment
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