Comments Thread For: Warren Reacts To Hearn's Offer Claim For Joshua vs. Fury

[frosty-g]

His smaller size means he is more difficult to nail. Fury presents a larger surface area to hit which is why he has been floored a few times.

You evidently haven’t boxed.

[frosty-g]

His smaller size means he is more difficult to nail. Fury presents a larger surface area to hit which is why he has been floored a few times.

A bit like a mouse running around your feet as you try to whack it with a broom?

[kafkod]

Bob Arum spittin' facts in Ring Magazine interview!
January 15, 2019:

There is one division, however, where he will only have a cursory interest, and that’s among the big men.

“You’ve got to understand the problem,” he said of the heavyweight division. “It will never be vital in the United States anymore. And the reason for that is our great heavyweights, great kids, particularly African-American kids who would go into boxing, are now playing football or basketball, like Lebron James. Those would be the heavyweights. In England, in Europe what do you have? They can’t play soccer, they’re too big. They don’t play basketball, they can’t play hockey because they’re too big for hockey so the sport they go into is boxing. It used to be in the United States when basketball and footballers made no money but now a big, strong athletic kid is not going into boxing, he’s going into basketball. The huge guys we have in football if they’d started out would have been great, great heavyweights. We don’t have them, so in the United States the heavyweights have to have something special in order to resonate because don’t you think there’s a difference from when I first started? Ninety-something per cent of the world class heavyweights, 95 per cent, were Americans, and now there’s one."


[And] Wilder-Fury resonated because of Fury. He was such a good salesman. It didn’t resonate because of Wilder but because Fury came on as a nut, a talker and so forth and that’s why people paid attention. Fury is a big draw in the United States because of one, his personality, second his performance and third how he recovered from that knockdown in the 12th round.”

https://www.******.com/552397-bob-ar...erning-bodies/

Arum must never have heard of rugby.

It's a very popular sport in the UK, more popular than boxing, tbh. There are a lot of rugby clubs in the UK, and each one needs a lot of players. Pro rugby players are huge. There are a lot more pro rugby players over here than than pro HW boxers, and, on average, the rugby pros earn more money than the HWs.

[MC Hammer]

Neither Warren nor Fury are shrinking violets. If Hearn was lying about Fury not wanting a split offer, we would have heard from both of them by now.

Hearn's offer to Wilder is for a UK fight, that means a major football stadium like Wembley would be needed to get maximum revenue. You have to book a Wembley date months in advance, and Hearn might not get a one at all after the football season starts.

Unification usually does trump a mando, but once a mando is ordered the unification has to happen quickly. That wouldn't be possible unless Hearn already has a stadium date booked.

Warren just said the offer was garbage so they have already called Hearn out on his nonsense.

As far as the rest, that seems like a Hearn problem. He booked the date with no guarantees of a big fight now everyone should alter their plans to fit his needs? If the unification is so important maybe he should bring his a$$ on over to the states and let that 4/13 date go then.

And with the mandatory already having been called for Fury, if Wilder were to accept the AJ fight in between, his last 4 would have been Ortiz, Fury, AJ, Fury. Considering that you said that the unification would have to happen quickly, then in a little over a year he would've fought those fights back to back. it puts him behind the 8 ball because the others have had lighter opposition in the meantime.

[Robbie Barrett]

Warren just said the offer was garbage so they have already called Hearn out on his nonsense.

As far as the rest, that seems like a Hearn problem. He booked the date with no guarantees of a big fight now everyone should alter their plans to fit his needs? If the unification is so important maybe he should bring his a$$ on over to the states and let that 4/13 date go then.

And with the mandatory already having been called for Fury, if Wilder were to accept the AJ fight in between, his last 4 would have been Ortiz, Fury, AJ, Fury. Considering that you said that the unification would have to happen quickly, then in a little over a year he would've fought those fights back to back. it puts him behind the 8 ball because the others have had lighter opposition in the meantime.

Warren said that in a video 2 days ago. That's not "just".

[OldTerry]

something I think everyone overlooks is that to Fury's advantage against Joshua is the issue of size and stamina. Joshua tired in his fight against a plodder like Klitchko. Against Fury he'll have to work much harder and when they're close Fury will clinch and lay all of his weight on Joshua. This to me spells trouble for Joshua who as he tire's will give up a lot of rounds on points. The fight ends by either Joshua winning by KO or Fury winning by decision and I'd bet on Fury.

[MC Hammer]

What org gives them 3 months to come to an agreement? You're talking absolute bollocks. It's usually 30 days. You're lying and tying yourself in knots trying to defend Wilders ducking.

WBO:

The World Championships Committee shall inform each World Champion recognized as such by the Organization in his respective weight category of division, in writing, with at least sixty (60) days of previous notice, of the obligation to defend the title in a compulsory fight against the Mandatory Challenger.

WBA

Before the date by which he must commit to a mandatory
defense of his title against a Mandatory Contender or the next Leading Available Contender
designated by the Committee, a World Champion may defend his title against any opponent
rated by the Association in his category. Within sixty (60) days of the expiration of the
mandatory defense period, a World Champion may not fight a boxer who is not the Mandatory


its sole discretion, the Championships Committee
may reduce, extend, or otherwise modify the periods for mandatory defenses in its sole discretion
when it deems reasonable either in response to a request for a Special Permit, or on its own
initiative.

IBF

In the event a Champion chooses to fulfill his mandatory obligation prior to
being advised to do so 60 days prior to the mandatory due date and, provided that
either (1) this decision is made by the Champion within the 90 day period before the
mandatory due date


What were you saying?

[MC Hammer]

Warren said that in a video 2 days ago. That's not "just".

That's the best you had to offer lol. So, you're agreeing with me that Warren has called Hearn out on BS lies and "offers". Boy you suck at this whole arguing thing

[Bronx2245]

Arum must never have heard of rugby.

It's a very popular sport in the UK, more popular than boxing, tbh. There are a lot of rugby clubs in the UK, and each one needs a lot of players. Pro rugby players are huge. There are a lot more pro rugby players over here than than pro HW boxers, and, on average, the rugby pros earn more money than the HWs.

Do they make the kind of money NFL and NBA stars make? I never played the game, but I love the jerseys! Lol! Bob is on point though! In my Grandfather's generation, Boxing and Baseball were King! My Father's generation re-invented the game of Basketball, but Boxing was still King! By the time I was a teen in NYC, nothing tops Basketball! Any man over 6'2" with good footwork was seeking to be in the NBA, and boxing was simply exercise, like Weightlifting or Karate! We cheered for Mike Tyson, but we didn't want to be like Mike, WE WANTED TO BE LIKE MIKE...JORDAN!

[Robbie Barrett]

WBO:

The World Championships Committee shall inform each World Champion recognized as such by the Organization in his respective weight category of division, in writing, with at least sixty (60) days of previous notice, of the obligation to defend the title in a compulsory fight against the Mandatory Challenger.

WBA

Before the date by which he must commit to a mandatory
defense of his title against a Mandatory Contender or the next Leading Available Contender
designated by the Committee, a World Champion may defend his title against any opponent
rated by the Association in his category. Within sixty (60) days of the expiration of the
mandatory defense period, a World Champion may not fight a boxer who is not the Mandatory


its sole discretion, the Championships Committee
may reduce, extend, or otherwise modify the periods for mandatory defenses in its sole discretion
when it deems reasonable either in response to a request for a Special Permit, or on its own
initiative.

IBF

In the event a Champion chooses to fulfill his mandatory obligation prior to
being advised to do so 60 days prior to the mandatory due date and, provided that
either (1) this decision is made by the Champion within the 90 day period before the
mandatory due date


What were you saying?

Yes i was saying.

WBC
Free Negotiations Period. After the WBC orders a bout, there shall be a period of thirty
(30) days for the parties to negotiate, finalize, execute, and file a contract for the bout.
Should the parties fail to file a fully-executed contract with the WBC by the end of such
period, the period of free negotiations shall automatically terminate.

https://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/Rules/W...anuary2014.pdf

IBF
The Championships Chairman will notify the Champion and the mandatory
challenger approximately sixty (60) days prior to the mandatory due date and the
boxers must observe that obligation. The Champion shall negotiate with the leading
available contender as designated by the Championships Chairman and the
President. If they are unable to negotiate the terms of the bout within thirty (30) days, they have the obligation to proceed to a purse bid under the procedure set forth
in Rule 10

https://www.ibfusbaregistration.com/...an_27_2014.pdf

Want to lie and twist some more ****? Clown.