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  • Ray*
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    #21
    Originally posted by yammy25
    Hearn at the same event have an interview to seckbach and blueblood and stated the following offer has been given to wilder.

    60/40 in Joshua's favour with a 15 million dollar guarantee for wilder.
    2 way rematch clause with fight 2 in USA.
    If wilder loses.. fight 2 is 70/30 in AJ's favour.
    If wilder wins.. 50/50 in his favour.

    That offer has been upped from an original 65/35 all other things the same.

    Crickets
    Thats a great deal if through, have they got back to him yet? Because i think that can still be negotiated.

    Personally i think that is a crazy offer that i don't think Wilder market value deserves, if this offer is for AFTER he stops Fury then definitely yeah. Because Wilder's market value is going up every fight now.

    The more Wilder wait the better for his market value, this is why i think Team Wilder has been ducking the AJ fight.

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    • yammy25
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      #22
      Originally posted by Scipio2009
      The split on the purse bid is 60/40 Wilder, lol.

      And Stephen Espinoza flaming Eddie Hearn on Twitter makes it pretty darn clear that your talk about any bid is silly.

      A UK fight has a maximum value of $45m; that comes directly from Eddie Hearn. 40% of that is $18m. Context is key.

      The $50m against 50% offer is still there for a US fight, and Wilder likely makes more money on that than taking the fight in the UK
      When did I say it wasn't 60/40 wilder?? I said fury wants 50/50 and wilder won't be giving him another 10 unnecessarily If he gets 60 in a purse bid scenario. Are you thick?

      You'really living in the biggest revisionist history I've seen by anyone in this debate.

      Don't extrapolate quotes from months ago, use them out of context and then apply them to current negotiations. It's fanciful. Even if that figure were applicable now...which it isn't.. wilder still gets 33 million dollars due to his 15 million guarantee on top of that split, so he still makes much more .

      As for saying what a UK fight is worth..exactly how much was the wilder fury fight worth to each fighter after network and cable splits and all other expenses? ****ing mong.

      Wilder fury 2 doesn't gross what AJ wilder does. Ever....irrespective of country. Now crawl back in your hole
      Last edited by yammy25; 01-19-2019, 04:16 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Bmore18
        IF true, thats a fair deal. But I dont even for a second believe that either sides have had any intention on following any script other than the below:

        AJ/Whyte
        Wilder/Fury2

        AJ/Miller (In US)
        Wilder/Breazeale

        *in 2020: AJ/Wilder.
        I'm getting:

        Wilder Fury
        AJ Miller
        Whyte Breazeale

        AJ Fury

        Once Wilder loses to Fury it's over for him. He's the worst mouthpiece in history. If I were AJ every time someone put a mic on front of my face I'd be saying "one name, one face, one champion, where are you...??"

        What a phony Wilder is

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          #24
          Originally posted by KTFOKING
          Because the WBC is doing WBC type of things lol.

          And the fight will be signed without the purse bid.

          Would be interested in seeing how much Hearn would bid. I see the fight doing 700k-1M buys for the rematch so the fighters would be set to make over 20M each. Would he put a bid over 30M for the fight?
          The way you manufacture figures from you assz is amazing.
          It will rather do 2mil buys.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Laligalaliga
            The way you manufacture figures from you assz is amazing.
            It will rather do 2mil buys.
            Nope, called the first fight spot on the buy rate. And I'm confident the rematch does in the range I stated. Could pull this up if the rematch happens next after the fight.

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              #26
              Originally posted by KTFOKING
              Nope, called the first fight spot on the buy rate. And I'm confident the rematch does in the range I stated. Could pull this up if the rematch happens next after the fight.
              Rematch Connor do more than 500 buys.
              Let's not over exaggerate things here.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                Rematch Connor do more than 500 buys.
                Let's not over exaggerate things here.
                The hell are you even saying here?

                I'm assuming you meant to say the rematch won't do more than 500k buys? If so, I disagree there.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING
                  The hell are you even saying here?

                  I'm assuming you meant to say the rematch won't do more than 500k buys? If so, I disagree there.
                  it's only a matter of time....

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by yammy25
                    When did I say it wasn't 60/40 wilder?? I said fury wants 50/50 and wilder won't be giving him another 10 unnecessarily If he gets 60 in a purse bid scenario. Are you thick?

                    You'really living in the biggest revisionist history I've seen by anyone in this debate.

                    Don't extrapolate quotes from months ago, use them out of context and then apply them to current negotiations. It's fanciful. Even if that figure were applicable now...which it isn't.. wilder still gets 33 million dollars due to his 15 million guarantee on top of that split, so he still makes much more .

                    As for saying what a UK fight is worth..exactly how much was the wilder fury fight worth to each fighter after network and cable splits and all other expenses? ****ing mong.

                    Wilder fury 2 doesn't gross what AJ wilder does. Ever....irrespective of country. Now crawl back in your hole
                    Lol, let me do this slowly so you can understand.

                    From the guarantees disclosed, the split on the first fight was close to 55/45 Wilder. There's literally zero incentive for Fury/Warren to stall seemingly cordial negotiations to get a worse share on the fight and possibly lose event control. Hope that helps.

                    How in the world does Deontay Wilder get $33m on an April Wembley date when Klitschko and Joshua, in the biggest event to ever hit the UK, ended up splitting $43m between the two of them? Lol.

                    Joshua-Wilder, in the UK anyway, has a knowable maximum value that is publicly available. DAZN may want to simply blow money and pay $10m for the US rights to a fight in the afternoon, but even then, you'd only be talking about $50m, maybe.

                    On the first fight, we know for sure that the fight did $3.5m+ at the live gate in LA, generated $25m+ on US PPV, with the take on the UK PPV being unknown. Rumors have it that both fighters ended up earning ~$14m each on the fight, but all we can say for sure is that the event covered it's own costs and then some.

                    Wilder-Fury 2 in Las Vegas with MGM Resorts (at T-Mobile Arena or the MGM Grand) will likely be worth at least $10m, with the chance to basically triple that value depending on how things go. The first fight was such an event, with such an exciting finish, that it's pretty set that the rematch will do significantly better on PPV.

                    On just those two streams alone, clearing $25m is unlikely to be some impossibility.

                    40% on even a $50m take is still $20m; after both fighters allegedly getting $14m on the first fight, do you honestly think that $20m on the rematch is some longshot?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by yammy25
                      When did I say it wasn't 60/40 wilder?? I said fury wants 50/50 and wilder won't be giving him another 10 unnecessarily If he gets 60 in a purse bid scenario. Are you thick?

                      You'really living in the biggest revisionist history I've seen by anyone in this debate.

                      Don't extrapolate quotes from months ago, use them out of context and then apply them to current negotiations. It's fanciful. Even if that figure were applicable now...which it isn't.. wilder still gets 33 million dollars due to his 15 million guarantee on top of that split, so he still makes much more .

                      As for saying what a UK fight is worth..exactly how much was the wilder fury fight worth to each fighter after network and cable splits and all other expenses? ****ing mong.

                      Wilder fury 2 doesn't gross what AJ wilder does. Ever....irrespective of country. Now crawl back in your hole
                      Lol, let me do this slowly so you can understand.

                      From the guarantees disclosed, the split on the first fight was close to 55/45 Wilder. There's literally zero incentive for Fury/Warren to stall seemingly cordial negotiations to get a worse share on the fight and possibly lose event control. Hope that helps.

                      How in the world does Deontay Wilder get $33m on an April Wembley date when Klitschko and Joshua, in the biggest event to ever hit the UK, ended up splitting $43m between the two of them? Lol.

                      Joshua-Wilder, in the UK anyway, has a knowable maximum value that is publicly available. DAZN may want to simply blow money and pay $10m for the US rights to a fight in the afternoon, but even then, you'd only be talking about $50m, maybe.

                      On the first fight, we know for sure that the fight did $3.5m+ at the live gate in LA, generated $25m+ on US PPV, with the take on the UK PPV being unknown. Rumors have it that both fighters ended up earning ~$14m each on the fight, but all we can say for sure is that the event covered it's own costs and then some.

                      Wilder-Fury 2 in Las Vegas with MGM Resorts (at T-Mobile Arena or the MGM Grand) will likely be worth at least $10m, with the chance to basically triple that value depending on how things go. The first fight was such an event, with such an exciting finish, that it's pretty set that the rematch will do significantly better on PPV.

                      On just those two streams alone, clearing $25m is unlikely to be some impossibility.

                      40% on even a $50m take is still $20m; after both fighters allegedly getting $14m on the first fight, do you honestly think that $20m on the rematch is some longshot?

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