Comments Thread For: Arum: Haymon Only Promoter Who Won't Work With Others

[Bronx2245]

So D. Garcia turned down Crawford? Probably wise, that's a fight he can't win. But for a Khan fight to be ppv, that's not wise. It may not sell well.

Bob offered DSG, who was recently a WW Champion, and fought Thurman and Porter, $3M. He offered Amir Khan, who has never been a WW Champion, and recently fought Lo Greco and Samuel Vargas, $5M. Why?

[Ake-Dawg]

How many Top Rank guys cross the aisle and fight on other platforms? How many PPV fights with other promoters has Bob made. He makes one with Hearn who is desperate to get his fighter in the ring and get a marquee fighter on DAZN and goes straight to talking s hit.

For the record, Danny turning the fight down in my view had everything to do with Danny not wanting to risk an L to Crawford right now and was not a PBC ESPN thing. Both Porter and Spence have spoken as if the go ahead is there to fight Crawford.

[BeLikeWater]

You have to give credit where credit is due. Al haymon single handedly stagnated boxing.

His fighters don't fight!

They just talk talk talk talk... Andrade should have went to pbc.

[Phill lynott]

Whether Arum is blowing alot of gut wind or not at least he's aknowledging what should be done and seems the general consensus among promoters agree. If anything we're going in the right direction. The foundation is set and money always smooths out the uneaven road.

[bluebeam]

Bob offered DSG, who was recently a WW Champion, and fought Thurman and Porter, $3M. He offered Amir Khan, who has never been a WW Champion, and recently fought Lo Greco and Samuel Vargas, $5M. Why?

3 million would be the biggest purse of Garcia career. He made less vs porter and thurman

5 million isn't the biggest purse of khan career. He made more vs canelo

[Cigar]

Could've sworn it was a religion.

There are ethnic ***s and religious ***s.

[filup79]

Let me guess Arum, all those promoters who you are working with, must have their fighters fight your guys on ESPN. Would Khan/Crawford get made if it was going to take place on DAZN for more money? We already know that HBO and GB were willing to pay more to have Loma/Linares on HBO and you said no, which made Linares and GB accept your terms since Linares isn't a big draw.

[Bronx23]

2 questions I have:

1. Why is dual broadcasting such a big deal ? It's such a rarity that it's almost unheard of. I understand that networks would get less viewers but if the fight isnt ppv, how are they losing money? The way I see it the deal should be, you pay your guy to fight on your network, we'll pay our guy to fight on ours, & the viewers can decide which channel they wanna watch on. Everybody wins the end.

2. Why is it that when promoters make offers for fights with PBC fighters they not only turn them down, they never even try to negotiate or make a counter offer to get the fght made? The response is usually "no thanks, I make more than that over here". If that's true then why not try to negotiate that when you're offered fights outside the PBC stable? If they're all their own bosses (they're not) then they don't need their "advisor's" permission.

[filup79]

How many Top Rank guys cross the aisle and fight on other platforms? How many PPV fights with other promoters has Bob made. He makes one with Hearn who is desperate to get his fighter in the ring and get a marquee fighter on DAZN and goes straight to talking s hit.

For the record, Danny turning the fight down in my view had everything to do with Danny not wanting to risk an L to Crawford right now and was not a PBC ESPN thing. Both Porter and Spence have spoken as if the go ahead is there to fight Crawford.

Actually Danny never turned down the fight. How can he turn down the fight when he had already been signed to fight Granados. It was PR move by Arum and TR, they knew very well that that fight was already signed and they were waiting to announce it along with all the other PBC fights on Fox. Keep in mind that they contacted Danny's dad 2 weeks before the announcement, do you really believe Danny didn't have that fight signed already at that time. LIke I said it was a PR move by Arum to make it seem like PBC guys are turning him down. Keep in mind, why didn't they offer the fight to Spence then? Why wouldn't Arum try to make Loma/MIkey after the LInares fight, but instead kept saying before that fight that Loma would fight the winner of Beltran/Pedraza.

[filup79]

Whether Arum is blowing alot of gut wind or not at least he's aknowledging what should be done and seems the general consensus among promoters agree. If anything we're going in the right direction. The foundation is set and money always smooths out the uneaven road.

Arums talks and blames others for not making fights, but he only works with other promoters who are willing to sent over their fighters to fight on ESPN. Arum fails to mention Haymon sending over Khan and Chavez Jr to fight Canelo or Jacobs fighting GGG. Arum expects any fighter who wants to fight his top tier fighters to agree to whatever terms he dictates and fight on ESPN. Arum wouldn't even allow both Ramirez's to enter the WBSS because he would have no control over it and it would be shown on DAZN. He expects top tiers PBC fighters to fight on ESPN but won't let his fighters fight on another network for more money.