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  • _Rexy_
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    #21
    Originally posted by boliodogs
    True but they have done enough and are looking good enough that no boxer in their weight class should be rated above them. They are both near the top of their class.
    TBRB has Bivol 3rd
    Ring has him 3rd
    Boxrec has him 4th

    What has Bivol done to put him at #1? (And I like Bivol)

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    • KTFOKING
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      #22
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      TBRB has Bivol 3rd
      Ring has him 3rd
      Boxrec has him 4th

      What has Bivol done to put him at #1? (And I like Bivol)
      Probably more so the eye test of him looking like the best to some. But that's about it. Not all that far from Spence getting the top spot at WW according to most, but he also dethroned Brook to get his spot. Bivol has a really solid win over Barrera, but that's about it at this point. Don't doubt he can compete with the top dogs, but Alvarez/Gvozdyk are coming off better wins.

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        #23
        Originally posted by boliodogs
        True but they have done enough and are looking good enough that no boxer in their weight class should be rated above them. They are both near the top of their class.
        No I disagree strongly. There have been some impressive performances at 175 especially. Gvozdyk win over Stevenson and Alvarez win over kovalev make them the top dogs for me at the moment. They’ve definitely done enough to be rated over Bivol. At 154 Hurd beating Lara makes him the clear number one guy for me too. Beating Liam smith doesn’t quite cut it for me.

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        • Real King Kong
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          #24
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          I usually refer to TBRB rankings to see who is the top in each division. Then I compare that against my perception.

          AJ, Usyk, Canelo are unquestionably the best at their weights IMO. TBRB supports this.

          There are a number of guys ahead of Bivol and Munguia at LHW and JMW in the TBRB rankings. I feel same way about Bivol but I only really have Hurd and Charlo ahead Munguia at 154.

          TBRB has Smith ahead of Zurdo but IMO they are equals at 168.
          I don't agree with canelo being unquestionably the best at mw. he's had only 2 fights there and he arguably lost both of them. all things considered, he probably is the best, but there's definitely questions.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Real King Kong
            I don't agree with canelo being unquestionably the best at mw. he's had only 2 fights there and he arguably lost both of them. all things considered, he probably is the best, but there's definitely questions.
            Any fight above 154 is MW. So the 155 lb bouts are MW fights. Yes he arguably lost to GGG but I was going off the official decision.

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              #26
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Any fight above 154 is MW. So the 155 lb bouts are MW fights. Yes he arguably lost to GGG but I was going off the official decision.
              yea, that's true...but which one of those fighters he faced at 155 are better than the top rated mws? if he decisively beat ggg, then fine, but him being the best at mw is still questionable imo.

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