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    #81
    Originally posted by P4Pdunny
    out of curiosity, how does he school him out of the ring? Do you mean a street fight, and if so..what makes you so sure?
    I mean he mentally destroys him with mind games and uncomfortable truths.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Pennsauken1
      Fury is the top heavyweight in the world, Wilder 2, Ortiz 3, Baby Miller 4
      What are the best wins of Miller and Ortiz?

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        #83
        Originally posted by Noelanthony
        Ortiz 1d then?? With Carlos Takam 1 p perhaps?
        Only Wilder, Fury and Joshua are on the elite level. But Joshua's last good win was against Klitschko two years ago. Wilder and Fury have become better fighters fighting each other and may have already surpassed him skill-wise. Best fighter to prepare Joshua is Ortiz. Usyk is too small. Miller is third-tier at this point, based on his level of opposition. Whyte didn't want to fight Pulev to become an IBF mandatory, so even Pulev might be a better option than Whyte. But Ortiz would be the best preparation before a fight with Wilder or Fury.

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          #84
          Originally posted by thack
          Nobody can truly say who's no. 1 yet and it seems with the Joshua and Hearns seven year business plan it will be a long time if ever.
          I can tell you who is number 3 between them. It is the Bumsquad guy from 'bama

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            #85
            Originally posted by davefromvancouv
            Only Wilder, Fury and Joshua are on the elite level. But Joshua's last good win was against Klitschko two years ago. Wilder and Fury have become better fighters fighting each other and may have already surpassed him skill-wise. Best fighter to prepare Joshua is Ortiz. Usyk is too small. Miller is third-tier at this point, based on his level of opposition. Whyte didn't want to fight Pulev to become an IBF mandatory, so even Pulev might be a better option than Whyte. But Ortiz would be the best preparation before a fight with Wilder or Fury.
            Wilder has surpassed Joshua skill wise?? He is the least skilled heavyweight to date.His power is immense and has the power to knock out any Heavyweight but as far as skill at the top level I thought that was evident in the Fury fight where he got outboxed

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              #86
              Originally posted by Herdis
              please kill urself or children strangled to death *****
              AJ is only in the discussion because hes avoided the biggest threat(s) and he will continue to be mentioned alongside Fury and Wilder by avoiding them . I'm fine with that, let FuryWilder sort out the top HW and AJ can clean up the rest..I say hes deserves a shot but I feel AJ don't think hes ready for either of them.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Noelanthony
                Wilder has surpassed Joshua skill wise?? He is the least skilled heavyweight to date.His power is immense and has the power to knock out any Heavyweight but as far as skill at the top level I thought that was evident in the Fury fight where he got outboxed
                It takes SKILL to knock somebody out in boxing, especially somebody as skillful and elusive as Fury. You knock somebody out in boxing, you WIN!

                After Ortiz and Fury, Wilder is getting better and better at knocking people out. How quickly do you think he'll be able to find Joshua after figuring out Fury?

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by davefromvancouv
                  It takes SKILL to knock somebody out in boxing, especially somebody as skillful and elusive as Fury. You knock somebody out in boxing, you WIN!

                  After Ortiz and Fury, Wilder is getting better and better at knocking people out. How quickly do you think he'll be able to find Joshua after figuring out Fury?
                  For one he didn’t knock out Fury and he throws windmills so it takes absolutely no skill. Having a 6ft 9 target and hitting him 5 times in 36 minutes being the natural athletic guy out of the two does not suggest to me he has improved his skill level. Wilder is as stiff if not stiffer than Joshua when he is defending. He is there to be knocked out. Chin in the air, goes backwards in straight lines with his hands in the air.

                  Coaches usually drum that out of you in the first year of boxing. Maybe if you tell me what you define as skill we can clear up this confusion

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Lazy Jab
                    AJ is only in the discussion because hes avoided the biggest threat(s) and he will continue to be mentioned alongside Fury and Wilder by avoiding them . I'm fine with that, let FuryWilder sort out the top HW and AJ can clean up the rest..I say hes deserves a shot but I feel AJ don't think hes ready for either of them.
                    I respect how you responded to that clown

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Noelanthony
                      I respect how you responded to that clown
                      Imagine how his response would've read if not for autocorrect

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