Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: No Problem With Arum; Went With Haymon For Fighters

[IceTrayDaGang]

To bad Crawford didn’t wake up! And it’s great that finally Manny woke up! I know he’s just being PC but he should have been left Arum.

pac played his cards right. and crawford will be fine with TR for now, matter fact, crawford should stay with TR for now. what TR and bob does is they built their fighters up. if pac left TR early on, he wouldnt have made anywhere near what he's made in his career.

use arum and TR early on in your career then leave towards the middle-end. crawford is making good money with TR fighting against b level guys. crawford will not make anywhere near that without arum and TR.

crawford should leave AFTER his current extended contract is expired. by then, crawford should have made enough money to go out on his own and still be successful.

[Fire4231]

Why is this surprising again? Of course Pacquiao left Arum for the money and the largest stable of viable opponents.

Al Haymon and PBC are now the premiere brand in boxing like it or not. The only people who refuse to accept this are the biased boxing writers and a few delusional race hating fans.

As Media heir apparent and darling Hearn struggles with creating interesting matchups, PBC is bringing us the BEST fights.

Time to put media momentum where it should be. If Arum wasn’t such an emotional old dude he would be strategic and start partnering with Al because he represents the only life line for Top Rank.

Good day gents, hope you can digest this truth!!!

[killakali]

This is the route Crawford should have taken. Top Rank simply doesn’t have the fighters at 147.

jetmall charlo should have taken this route and signed with dazn for the same reason

[HarvardBlue]

I actually I respect Pacquiao for this. I wish more fighters would cross the street for bigger fights.

[jjsmyth87]

Why is this surprising again? Of course Pacquiao left Arum for the money and the largest stable of viable opponents.

Al Haymon and PBC are now the premiere brand in boxing like it or not. The only people who refuse to accept this are the biased boxing writers and a few delusional race hating fans.

As Media heir apparent and darling Hearn struggles with creating interesting matchups, PBC is bringing us the BEST fights.

Time to put media momentum where it should be. If Arum wasn’t such an emotional old dude he would be strategic and start partnering with Al because he represents the only life line for Top Rank.

Good day gents, hope you can digest this truth!!!

Didn't you read the article? It's common knowledge that Top Rank turned Mayweather Pacquiao De La Hoya Sugar Ray Leonard Hagler Hearns and many others into household names and the highest paid boxers in history. Name one fighter Haymon has turned into a big star despite having the largest stable for years? Face the facts and the music Pacquiao left only because he's at the end of his career and wants easier fights instead of the higher paying and more respectable yet harder fights with Crawford and Loma at 140. Now he can cherry pick the likes of about bullshhit and Danny Garcia.

[jjsmyth87]

I actually I respect Pacquiao for this. I wish more fighters would cross the street for bigger fights.

Agreed, the problem is the promoters, especially Al Haymon won't let their fighters work with other promotions. Arum has proven over and over again hes willing to work with other promoters for big fights, can't say the same for Haymon who does mostly in house fights

[Curt Henning]

Didn't you read the article? It's common knowledge that Top Rank turned Mayweather Pacquiao De La Hoya Sugar Ray Leonard Hagler Hearns and many others into household names and the highest paid boxers in history. Name one fighter Haymon has turned into a big star despite having the largest stable for years? Face the facts and the music Pacquiao left only because he's at the end of his career and wants easier fights instead of the higher paying and more respectable yet harder fights with Crawford and Loma at 147. Now he can cherry pick the likes of about bullshhit and Danny Garcia.

ok....but TR did not turn floyd into the floyd that exists today..in fact it was once floyd left TR he took off....bob didnt even think putting floyd vs oscar was worth it to him and said hed lose money on it.......yeah bob has made stars and does a good job of it...but he miscalculated with floyd big time and blew his chance

pac didnt leave because he wants easier fights....but because aside from crawford there arent any good fights for pac .....haymon can offer broner, spence, thurman, porter, danny and even possibly mikey should he beat spence or decide to stick around 147....other than crawford bob cant offer him much now

loma isnt/never was fighting pac at 147 guy...if you think that was happening or had a chance you are nuts....loma aint going that high...not against anyone good or even at faded pacs level...bob wouldnt dare make that fight last year or now

[Curt Henning]

pac played his cards right. and crawford will be fine with TR for now, matter fact, crawford should stay with TR for now. what TR and bob does is they built their fighters up. if pac left TR early on, he wouldnt have made anywhere near what he's made in his career.

use arum and TR early on in your career then leave towards the middle-end. crawford is making good money with TR fighting against b level guys. crawford will not make anywhere near that without arum and TR.

crawford should leave AFTER his current extended contract is expired. by then, crawford should have made enough money to go out on his own and still be successful.

this is pretty true and fair

for crawford being one of bobs top 2 fighters helps....loma and bud are really the faces of bobs espn program.......but im not entirely sure bud is really taking home more money than a spence, thurman or danny....maybe...but if he is its not much(cant go by listed purses as its common knowledge als guys get more on top)....

but i understand loyalty to bob...he does well at building a fighter.....and for pac i could see his loyalty being more blind being where hes from.....for crawford though he should be a bit more aware as he knows many stories here about fighters being screwed and not getting their worth just by making the rounds across gyms in the US....pac is an immigrant with limited knowledge and he always had a leach like koncz around

spence would have prob been better off legacy wise to make the move now....but youre right...he gets easy fights for good money and really he can prob afford another few years under bob doing this......provided he gets some big fights later.....but people are gonna crow about his competition.....he could be over there in the pbc in the mix with the big boys...but he can also let those guys sort themselves out and hit a couple of the big guns that come out of that for some good money at the end

[jjsmyth87]

ok....but TR did not turn floyd into the floyd that exists today..in fact it was once floyd left TR he took off....bob didnt even think putting floyd vs oscar was worth it to him and said hed lose money on it.......yeah bob has made stars and does a good job of it...but he miscalculated with floyd big time and blew his chance

pac didnt leave because he wants easier fights....but because aside from crawford there arent any good fights for pac .....haymon can offer broner, spence, thurman, porter, danny and even possibly mikey should he beat spence or decide to stick around 147....other than crawford bob cant offer him much now

loma isnt/never was fighting pac at 147 guy...if you think that was happening or had a chance you are nuts....loma aint going that high...not against anyone good or even at faded pacs level...bob wouldnt dare make that fight last year or now

I meant to put 140 I fixed it. Pacquiao could have also fought Khan which would also be a hard fight for him. He would have made way more fighting Crawford than any of those fighters you just mentioned, he was obviously ducking him. Can't say I blame him, he already cemented his legacy and should fight broner Danny Garcia fights at this stage, but to say he did it for money that's not correct and anyone who has followed my posts on here knows I'm a big Pacquiao fan.

Arum was the one who turned Mayweather into a ppv star. If Mayweather stuck around with Top Rank and fought De La Hoya he would have been just as popular if not more so. The fact is besides Canelo with Golden Boy Arum is the only one who has developed ppv stars for decades. Pacquiao, Mayweather, De La Hoya, Cotto, Erik Morales ect. And now Crawford is there too and Loma will be as soon as he gets a popular enough opponent. Top Rank has always had the best of the best because Arum has always been the best promoter and paid the most. You could even argue that without Arum there would be no Canelo because Arum made odlh a star.

Pbc has had the best fighters at 147 for years overall and haven't developed a single ppv fighter. The first might be Spence but well have to see how well his fight against Garcia sells first. Even if it does well the pbc system is set up to where people will continue ducking Spence, and he might not be able to get another quality fight for awhile, and therefore no ppv fight. Top Rank forces their fighters to fight the best, not every fight of course but Arum wants return on his investments which means making big fights, which is great for the fans and the sport of boxing. Haymon has been making better fights lately, I hope that trend continues I want to see the best fights, I don't want him to fail that wouldn't benefit anyone, but history has shown that his fighters like to duck the hard fights because they can get away with it

[Curt Henning]

I meant to put 140 I fixed it. Pacquiao could have also fought Khan which would also be a hard fight for him. He would have made way more fighting Crawford than any of those fighters you just mentioned, he was obviously ducking him. Can't say I blame him, he already cemented his legacy and should fight broner Danny Garcia fights at this stage, but to say he did it for money that's not correct and anyone who has followed my posts on here knows I'm a big Pacquiao fan.

Arum was the one who turned Mayweather into a ppv star. If Mayweather stuck around with Top Rank and fought De La Hoya he would have been just as popular if not more so. The fact is besides Canelo with Golden Boy Arum is the only one who has developed ppv stars for decades. Pacquiao, Mayweather, De La Hoya, Cotto, Erik Morales ect. And now Crawford is there too and Loma will be as soon as he gets a popular enough opponent. Top Rank has always had the best of the best because Arum has always been the best promoter and paid the most. You could even argue that without Arum there would be no Canelo because Arum made odlh a star.

Pbc has had the best fighters at 147 for years overall and haven't developed a single ppv fighter. The first might be Spence but well have to see how well his fight against Garcia sells first. Even if it does well the pbc system is set up to where people will continue ducking Spence, and he might not be able to get another quality fight for awhile, and therefore no ppv fight. Top Rank forces their fighters to fight the best, not every fight of course but Arum wants return on his investments which means making big fights, which is great for the fans and the sport of boxing. Haymon has been making better fights lately, I hope that trend continues I want to see the best fights, I don't want him to fail that wouldn't benefit anyone, but history has shown that his fighters like to duck the hard fights because they can get away with it

bro..let me stop you....floyd asked bob to make the oscar fight...bob wanted no part of it....thats why floyd bought out his contract

do you know how many fights ppv fights floyd had under TR?

ive posted the article several times and can do it again....floyd agreed to fight margarito for 8 million provided bob guaranteed him 20 mil for future fights against hatton and cotto...bob would only offer 14...and said he couldnt do an oscar fight so floyd left.....i can post the link again if you wish