Is Luis Ortiz the greatest myth in boxing history?

[sicko]

Why not push for top guys to fight him and end this "MYTH" that is King Kong Ortiz? I guarantee if he truly wasn't that good or a threat people would rush to fight him. At the same time some people are downplaying him because Wilder had the BALLS to get with him while other still don't want any part of him and they use his age as a weak excuse not to fight him

[JSN006]

Why not push for top guys to fight him and end this "MYTH" that is King Kong Ortiz? I guarantee if he truly wasn't that good or a threat people would rush to fight him. At the same time some people are downplaying him because Wilder had the BALLS to get with him while other still don't want any part of him and they use his age as a weak excuse not to fight him

Word, ortiz is skilled

[j.razor]

Joshua passed the elite test against Wlad while Ortiz lost to wilder on his biggest stage. He practically dropped the ball during crucial moment while up several points . He is not a clutch fighter which puts him below that cream of the crop level.

By today’s HW standards, Joshua is elite.

If your going by today's standards then King Kong is elite. D.Wilder, Fury, Ortiz & Joshua are the Top 4.

[j.razor]

Originally Posted by JSN006
A leftovers line. Yawn. Try harder dude, please. You must be new to boxing. Ortiz would fight someone if they accepted. You guys are literally going in circles. 'They shouldnt fight him cuz he brings nothing but he should fight someone' is essentially your argument. Lol talk about asinine.

PS whyte ducked him in december. You need to keep up with the news, dumdum

There is nothing to suggest an ortiz aj fight will do bad with the uk public if the aj molina/martin/breazeale fights were accepted by the public. Try some
Other dumb excuse now, hearn fanboy. Amuse me. Defo a millennial and a biatch too

Fck off, ****head.

Home boy just body bagged you....LMMFAO!

[j.razor]

Dude at the right is even getting bored of you protecting Triple L

[kafkod]

Woah slow down with the logic and strong comeback facts, brah.

Couldnt have asked for a better way of basically validating everything i said.

Logic and facts are wasted on pricks like you. Now fck off and stop quoting me.

[j.razor]

When Ortiz start putting 5/10k fans on seat to watch him and his management start sending out contracts to other top 10 fighters, then I will take him serious.

Anything short of that is still media propangada to get another title shot which isn't gonna happen.

YOU take King Kong serious if he is a bigger draw? You dudes BEEN ducking!

As far back as 2016

http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/...vyweight-clash

Golden Boy Promotions offered the fight to several candidates, including Andy Ruiz, Andrey Fedosov, Carlos Takam, Alexander Ustinov and former world titleholder Bermane Stiverne, but was rebuffed time and again.

[Laligalaliga]

Lol there it is, the asses in seats excuse. Whyte and aj alone can fill the seats dude, these are all excuses. Helenius and molina didnt fill those seats alone. It takes 2 to tango, even povetkin who also dont speak english and going by your terms had no belt to offer filled the seats. This toxic talk of you 'boxing fans' just kills me. And the way you deliver it," then i will take him serious", its as if you are the manager and promoter yourself. Sickening. Already showed you they been chasing big fights by that link and you conveniently ignored it. You know as well as i do that the list of fighters that ducked ortiz over the years is endless. Including wlad himself. Whyte recently... and for an eliminator, not for 'nothing'. Joyce apparently too, he went silent all of a sudden. Guess its the usual fighter wants it but management dont. Anyway just dont play daft, it doesnt work with me.

Let's get things straight before we start getting too emotional. No body ducks a guy that is always on undercards. You cannot talk boxing without talking about the financial part of it. That aside, whyte is a fvbking boogeyman and a warrior always ready for any challenge.

WBC pissed on him with their politics and gave a mando to Breazeale. Hez never hide his desire to hunt wilder down. It is what it is. He was giving option to face Ortiz for a second mandatory which he accepted but under a condition that once he KO Ortiz, wilder will be next.

Wilder didn't concent to that and walk away. So I wouldn't blame him for going the WBO route and made more money with that singular decision.
Great fight great reward great business.

[otrocubiche]

I guess we'll never know as he was avoided during his better years, I don't think he would have beat Fury, but with everybody else he had a chance as he could box and punch, now it's too late for him.

[Laligalaliga]

YOU take King Kong serious if he is a bigger draw? You dudes BEEN ducking!

As far back as 2016

http://www.espn.com/blog/dan-rafael/...vyweight-clash

Golden Boy Promotions offered the fight to several candidates, including Andy Ruiz, Andrey Fedosov, Carlos Takam, Alexander Ustinov and former world titleholder Bermane Stiverne, but was rebuffed time and again.

It's hi time his management start sending out contracts to other fighters.
He can't always be at the receiving end all the time.
Take the bull by horn or fvvk off.