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  • Chups
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    #21
    Originally posted by Superman RJJ
    Kadyo, I know I know you thought I wouldnt reply you are wrong which you usually are about such things as boxing for example I have seen more fights than you have got up in the morning, yeah I did see the Larios fight and thats not that much of a achievment really is it? he beat a good lower weight fighter so what he got absolutely schooled by Juan Manuel Marquez and should have defo lost that decision, he beat Barrera who couldnt train properly due to the forest fires around his camp and Erik Morales who was coming off a lose to Raheem c`mon you know and I know that all these fighters I have chosen would give him a fight, You need to get off Pacquiao right away

    Pacquiao is a World Champion Flyweight...Larios is a World Champion SuperBantamweight....Are you saying that Larios fought a good lower weight fighter?

    Hilarious!!...a flyweight comes up and beats all the featherweight and junior lightweight legends still gets no respect....LOL.

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    • kerrminator
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      #22
      Pac has been very lucky with his timing, he burst onto the world scene with a win over MAB on what can only be described as a bad night for Marco.

      He was schooled by JMM and was lucky to get the draw(usually only pinoys disagree on this)

      Morales was already on the decline when he took Pac to school and was a shadow of his former self last time out (still gave him plenty of trouble)

      JMM should have had his re-match, MAB is getting a rematch(hopefully,but he is getting old too) and Morales is going for 2 out of 3(as is pac)

      He needs to learn to box because his speedy reflexes will only take him so far then he will be found wanting. He is lucky that MAB, EM and JMM etc are all declining coz he would only be a fringe contender if those guys were still on form.

      If EM sorts out the stamina issues he had last time then he can take him, in the first fight he managed to make Pac look very silly at times and only because he ran out of steam in the 2nd bout Pac managed to get to him.

      Guzman would give him nightmares and can match him easily for speed and power.

      Hopefully Scott Harrison makes a full recovery and gets it on with the Pacman, Scott might not be the finest technician but he would push Pac around the ring like a kid and break him down with his strength and pressure.SH has an iron chin aswell.

      An on form Naz (95-99)would have knocked him clean out after he entertained the fans by toying with him for a few rounds.

      Yep, he's lucky he is around now instead of a few years back when the all the above mentioned fighters were priming.

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      • psychopath
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        #23
        Originally posted by Superman RJJ
        I can name 5 fighters that would either beat or give a good fight to the pac man at the moment they are:

        Erik Morales - There is no way that Manny is beating him again, Morales has the better movement and ring skills and will beat Pacquiao has he did in the first fight

        Marco Antonio Barrera - Manny caught Barrera on a very very bad night and I dont see Barrera having anymore of these

        Jorge Barrios - This guy never knows when he`s beat has he showed against Freitas this guy is a very very dangerous opponent for any of the fighters within the division

        Joan Guzman - Joan is an unbeaten fighter that has never really been tested I dont envision Manny giving him much of a problem to be honest

        Rocky Juarez - Showed during the Barrera fight that he is ready to take on the world a very very good fighter with great body punching ability.

        Before people say that im hating on Manny, im really not I think he is a great puncher but thats all he is, he doesnt have no ring skills his movement is questionable and gets hit alot on his way in I just think he is a very very defeatable fighter

        I have no problem with your list, I must agree that these fighters can give Pac a good fight or might even defeat him. PLus it's fact that Pac is defeatable.

        But the later part of your post is TRASH.

        He already gave MAB the worst beating of his career, he is tied with Eric at 1-1 on their meeting but he gave Eric his first K.O. loss.

        Now you're saying he has no skills and his movements are questionable. Are you saying that MAB and Morales were BUMS and were complete JOKES of a fighter ?

        I think you're getting lost dude, yeah right you're not hating. The number 3 p4p fighter in the world has no skills.

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        • legacyofbrutality
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          #24
          Ive already come to accept the fact that no matter who pacquiao beats, he'll never get his due credit, its just a fact of life. What the thread creater said about Pacquiao being a defeatable fighter is true with any other fighter, no one is unbeatable i dont care who u are. And yes by saying what u are saying u are hating on Pacman, descrediting him for every big win and not giving him any props at all that counts as hatred.

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          • j
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            #25
            pacman's skills are rapidly improving. i've seen a ton of improvement on his defensive game, a more technical offence, as well as the experience he's gained from fighting nothing but the top of the top for the last few years.

            his movement is questionable?
            no boxing skills?

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            • legacyofbrutality
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              #26
              Its too bad Pacquiao cant beat anyone good, if he does it doesnt count somehow for some unknown reason

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              • kg21mvp
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                #27
                have you seen him fight after the JMM bout! damn youre clealry missing a lot he improved in a lot of things boy.. his lateral and became a more of a complete boxer! being able to grind morales to 9 rounds and KTFO of him in the 10th..

                juarez for me clearly fits pac's style a slug it out boxer who wants to keep on punching and likes to give it all!

                ill agree with one of the posters with BArrios being the most dangerous opponent for pac coz hes big and strong IMHO could beat him with a punch

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                • kg21mvp
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Superman RJJ
                  I can name 5 fighters that would either beat or give a good fight to the pac man at the moment they are:

                  Erik Morales - There is no way that Manny is beating him again, Morales has the better movement and ring skills and will beat Pacquiao has he did in the first fight

                  Marco Antonio Barrera - Manny caught Barrera on a very very bad night and I dont see Barrera having anymore of these

                  Jorge Barrios - This guy never knows when he`s beat has he showed against Freitas this guy is a very very dangerous opponent for any of the fighters within the division

                  Joan Guzman - Joan is an unbeaten fighter that has never really been tested I dont envision Manny giving him much of a problem to be honest

                  Rocky Juarez - Showed during the Barrera fight that he is ready to take on the world a very very good fighter with great body punching ability.

                  Before people say that im hating on Manny, im really not I think he is a great puncher but thats all he is, he doesnt have no ring skills his movement is questionable and gets hit alot on his way in I just think he is a very very defeatable fighter
                  shut the fu** up fool you dont know waht youre talking about biatch

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                  • xzworks
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                    #29
                    for me Pacquiao #3 P4P and thats a good achievement . he's beatable but u cannot tell pacquiao duck anyone.

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                    • Mr. Ryan
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Superman RJJ
                      I can name 5 fighters that would either beat or give a good fight to the pac man at the moment they are:

                      Erik Morales - There is no way that Manny is beating him again, Morales has the better movement and ring skills and will beat Pacquiao has he did in the first fight

                      Marco Antonio Barrera - Manny caught Barrera on a very very bad night and I dont see Barrera having anymore of these

                      Jorge Barrios - This guy never knows when he`s beat has he showed against Freitas this guy is a very very dangerous opponent for any of the fighters within the division

                      Joan Guzman - Joan is an unbeaten fighter that has never really been tested I dont envision Manny giving him much of a problem to be honest

                      Rocky Juarez - Showed during the Barrera fight that he is ready to take on the world a very very good fighter with great body punching ability.

                      Before people say that im hating on Manny, im really not I think he is a great puncher but thats all he is, he doesnt have no ring skills his movement is questionable and gets hit alot on his way in I just think he is a very very defeatable fighter
                      I dunno, this guy is slightly off. Pacquiao is beatable, I just don't think its gonna be anyone logical. Pacquiao will always bring his A game against Barrera and Morales, they are guys he won't sleep on. As for Juarez and Guzman, both are too inexperienced and flawed. I dunno, I think Guzman sucks at 130, he doesnt punch hard anymore. The only guy I think on this list who can beat him is Barrios, and thats primarily on Barrios' physical style and strength. Other than that, hes pretty much Velasquez.

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