Sky's PPV Numbers are a lie...

[KTFOKING]

Speaking of PPV numbers, does BARB have the numbers for Wilder/Fury? Or that only goes for Sky PPVs?

[rickJen]

If they are lies,
why is it that Hearn is able to offer Wilder more than ten times Haymon and Espinoza can?
That's my friend what you should be asking yourself.
Wilder's average purse has been $1.3 mil before the Fury fight.
Why can't he be offered more without importing UK fighters?

[EasternEuroFan]

Lol look at all the Matchroom fanboys jumping to their defense.


I'm just providing facts so that people don't get fooled by disinformation. The figures you're getting are estimated viewing figures based on 2.5:1 ratio in terms of watchers to buys.

[Robbie Barrett]

Lol look at all the Matchroom fanboys jumping to their defense.


I'm just providing facts so that people don't get fooled by disinformation. The figures you're getting are estimated viewing figures based on 2.5:1 ratio in terms of watchers to buys.

If that was true then the reported Joshua-Klitschko Barb numbers would be at least 2.5 mil because we know for a fact it did over 1 mil buys. They're 1.5 mil. Try again. Your thread failed.

[EasternEuroFan]

If that was true then the reported Joshua-Klitschko Barb numbers would be at least 2.5 mil because we know for a fact it did over 1 mil buys. They're 1.5 mil. Try again. Your thread failed.

There's no fact it did over 1m buys. Sky don't disclose their PPV buys.

It had about 700k buys in reality, based on viewing figures.

[DoktorSleepless]

Their numbers fall in line with PPV numbers we know. So no they aren't going with their own estimates. That much is obvious. Estimated viewers for the big fights would be far higher than what they're reporting.

I went over this a while back

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19159876#post19159876

I think it must be buys, because the BARB numbers are always right in line with the numbers Hearn says he gets from Sky. He said Sky told him it sold over a million PPVs, but not as many as AJ vs Parker.

Here's a quote from Eddie Hearn giving numbers.

“Back in the day 250,000 pay per view buys used to be a solid touch, you know. Then, like lately, lets go back to Dillian Whyte against Joshua, again, off the top of my head, 420,000 buys. Anthony Joshua against Charles Martin – 500 and something thousand buys. Kell Brook against Gennady Golovkin – 400,000 buys. Anthony Joshua against Eric Molina – 450,000 buys. David Haye against Tony Bellew – 750,000 buys. Klitschko against Joshua – 1.2 million buys.”

And these are the BARB weekly reach numbers from the link OP posted.

Dillian Whyte vs Joshua: 660k
Martin vs Joshua: 964k
Golovkin vs Brook: 644k
Eric Molina vs Joshua: 606k
David haye vs Tony Bellew: 1,407k
Joshua vs Klitschko: 1,532k

Some of them are twice as big. Others like 50% bigger.

[Split Decision]

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maybe people will actually like this one

[aAgger]

If what you claimed was true, then that would mean May-Pac and May-Mac only did 400k buys in the UK, since BARB is reporting 800-900k for those fights. But we know that May-Pac and May-Mac did close to 1m, which is close to the BARB numbers.

If your theory was true, then that would mean the vast majority of UK fights in the last decade were flops, and the UK PPV industry would've collapsed. Yet the UK PPV industry is stronger than ever. Your theory is entirely speculation, with no evidence or sources to back it up.

[EasternEuroFan]

If what you claimed was true, then that would mean May-Pac and May-Mac only did 400k buys in the UK, since BARB is reporting 800-900k for those fights. But we know that May-Pac and May-Mac did close to 1m, which is close to the BARB numbers.

If your theory was true, then that would mean the vast majority of UK fights in the last decade were flops, and the UK PPV industry would've collapsed. Yet the UK PPV industry is stronger than ever. Your theory is entirely speculation, with no evidence or sources to back it up.

We don't know that because Sky don't release numbers.


1m PPV's in the UK is a lot. you're talking almost 2% of the population buying it, not just watching. Given that boxing is a niche sport in some ways, a lot of the population are kids, old etc. 1m PPV's is an incredible amount, even 500k is.

So even if they reveal the real number of buys and not estimated viewers, they would still be impressive figures, all things considered..

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

If anyone is not aware, Eddie Hearn has linked a website called BARB.co.uk many times to show the amount of buys for the event.

Actually BARB does not show the amount of buys and never have. What they do as a company is collect broadcasting data to show an estimated amount of viewers for TV. They estimate it using averages like how many people would be watching a PPV buy, which on average is definitely more than 1 surely?

So when Hearn says he did 500k buys and uses BARB as his proof, that is actually just an estimated amount of people watching. So imagine on average across the country that 2 people are watching the same PPV buy, then you could essentially cut the buys he says in half to get a more accurate number. Actually their ratio is more like 2.5 viewers per TV.

Sky never release an amount of buys and Hearn clouds the water by giving figures of estimated viewers and passes it off as buys.

This is just fact

BARB have no credibility.

The Sky PPV are majorly inflated IMO.

For example, as much as I hate to say it Mayweather-McGregor was by far a bigger deal an any other fight in the past 2 years, and according to BARB Haye-Bellew did more buys than May-Mac😂😂😂

I ain’t gonna get into it with Matchroom FC, who will vehemently defend BARB as it supports Hearn’s propaganda. You can choose to believe those numbers if you want...🤪