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Originally posted by JWHardin View PostAny offer put out there by Hearn needs to be immediately challenged by team Wilder, demanding they provide proof of funds. Give them a 24hr deadline. Then say they are fighting someone else. Sound familiar? Of course it won't be $50 million dollars guaranteed like they turned down.
Even the rabid AJ fans will begin to see how blatantly Joshua ducked Wilder last fall. But to others, it simply won't sink in.
"You want to know the details of the offer and to meet regarding the biggest HW guarantee? Don't be ridiculous.
Say publicly that you accept our offer then we'll let you know what you actually have to do for the money."
You can't see any problems with this?
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Originally posted by JWHardin View PostAny offer put out there by Hearn needs to be immediately challenged by team Wilder, demanding they provide proof of funds. Give them a 24hr deadline. Then say they are fighting someone else. Sound familiar? Of course it won't be $50 million dollars guaranteed like they turned down.
Even the rabid AJ fans will begin to see how blatantly Joshua ducked Wilder last fall. But to others, it simply won't sink in.
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Originally posted by Jax teller View Post"You want to know the details of the offer and to meet regarding the biggest HW guarantee? Don't be ridiculous.
Say publicly that you accept our offer then we'll let you know what you actually have to do for the money."
You can't see any problems with this?
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Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View PostQuite frankly, I don't. "Yes, I accept the offer on its face value. Now, let's see the details." The further details don't necessarily need to be agreed to, and AJ couldn't legally (at least US law) be bound to anything further than $50m
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Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View PostQuite frankly, I don't. "Yes, I accept the offer on its face value. Now, let's see the details." The further details don't necessarily need to be agreed to, and AJ couldn't legally (at least US law) be bound to anything further than $50m
You don't make big, historical business deals with someone who refuses to meet you to discuss details, thats how you get ripped off.
Also if you've got nothing to hide, want someone to take your offer and have already "wasted the time" it would have required to arrange 50 mil to offer someone you'd oblige them by providing all the details.
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostBut you see a problem with asking for the details before accepting? They were hiding something and we found out what later, they had BT involved. Which makes the offer a complete utter BS offer which was impossible for Joshua to accept anyway. Wilder fans shouldn't even bring it up it proves Wilder didn't want the fight, but they aren't the brightest bunch.
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Originally posted by Jax teller View PostAJ had already said "Lets roll" what more do you want? Why wasn't that enough for a meeting?
You don't make big, historical business deals with someone who refuses to meet you to discuss details, thats how you get ripped off.
Also if you've got nothing to hide, want someone to take your offer and have already "wasted the time" it would have required to arrange 50 mil to offer someone you'd oblige them by providing all the details.
You also don't make big historic business deal with someone who hasn't agreed to do business.
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Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View PostI dont see the point in providing details if there was no acceptance in principle. Its like when my father was alive. He was a paint contractor. Property maintenance companies would offer jobs doing communities. Contractors would submit bids and if the bid was won, a real contract was drawn up. There's no need to draw a contract until the bid is accepted.
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostHearn wanting to meet and negotiate showed they were interested. If Joshua/Hearn accpeted then they'd pull out the BT card and Joshua would have to back out. Why was it so important for Joshua to "accept" publicly? Publicity stunt. You got played.
One thing I never heard from either AJ or Eddie (well, AJ said it once...) is that they were willing to fight Deontay Wilder for $50M. Once the offer was made, there was never an acceptance.
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