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[QUOTE=Cracaphat;19407093]Both have been found wanting.They should both retire after this pointless
Eubank Jr is not even 30 years old yet. He has 2 losses, the first being a competitive loss to Saunders. Even after giving away many early rounds he came back in the second half enough to cause a split decision if I remember correctly. Saunders is a good fighter and the loss was very competitive. His only other loss was to Groves, a guy much bigger and stronger than him. Groves is also a much better technical boxer. Eubank Jr has the skills and heart and stamina to be a great fighter, but not a great boxer. We have seen him lunging and throwing wide amateurish punches missing wildly in desperation vs Groves. Part of this I attribute to his inflated ego which allows him to believe he doesn't need a trainer. I'm interested to see if his new trainer can have a positive effect. But even if he does not get any better in the boxing skills department, his excellent workrate and insane fitness and stamina and heart are enough for him to give most fighters a tough fight. Hell even Groves had a tough time with him and never came close to stopping him. Eubank Jr needs to go back to middleweight and quit giving away so much strength and size fighting at 168. Guys like Groves and Smith are just too big for him, especially since Eubank doesn't possess special punching power. Down at 160, fighting on equal terms with guys his size, he can utilize that workrate and stamina and make for some really entertaining fights with the top guys. I'd love to see him against Charlo, Lemieux, Saunders rematch, Derevyanchenko, Jacob's, Canelo, Golovkin, Rob Brant, any of those guys. I really believe Eubank Jr is a tough out at 160. He says he can still make 160 so I've never understood why he went up to 168
Eubank Jr is not even 30 years old yet. He has 2 losses, the first being a competitive loss to Saunders. Even after giving away many early rounds he came back in the second half enough to cause a split decision if I remember correctly. Saunders is a good fighter and the loss was very competitive. His only other loss was to Groves, a guy much bigger and stronger than him. Groves is also a much better technical boxer. Eubank Jr has the skills and heart and stamina to be a great fighter, but not a great boxer. We have seen him lunging and throwing wide amateurish punches missing wildly in desperation vs Groves. Part of this I attribute to his inflated ego which allows him to believe he doesn't need a trainer. I'm interested to see if his new trainer can have a positive effect. But even if he does not get any better in the boxing skills department, his excellent workrate and insane fitness and stamina and heart are enough for him to give most fighters a tough fight. Hell even Groves had a tough time with him and never came close to stopping him. Eubank Jr needs to go back to middleweight and quit giving away so much strength and size fighting at 168. Guys like Groves and Smith are just too big for him, especially since Eubank doesn't possess special punching power. Down at 160, fighting on equal terms with guys his size, he can utilize that workrate and stamina and make for some really entertaining fights with the top guys. I'd love to see him against Charlo, Lemieux, Saunders rematch, Derevyanchenko, Jacob's, Canelo, Golovkin, Rob Brant, any of those guys. I really believe Eubank Jr is a tough out at 160. He says he can still make 160 so I've never understood why he went up to 168
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