mayweather is levels above Ali. lets be real

[blue_dolphin]

floyd has
better jab
better footwork
better defense
better ring IQ
better accuracy
better reflexes
better inside fighter
better body puncher
better adjuster
better right hand
better chin
better at counter punching

floyd is SUPERIOR. therefore he is the GOAT. period. what does ali do better than floyd in the ring???

[modernboxing]

Agreed on all counts except the chin part and

Ali has more power, better movement, more fluid, better chin and hands that dont break at every punch.

Having said that Floyd would beat Ali 8 times out of ten if they were the same size.

[Kaspa9t9]

You made that poster specifically for this post?

[blue_dolphin]

You made that poster specifically for this post?

hahahahahha. now. tell me what does ali do better than floyd in the ring???

[Chrismart]

Ali is a real, bonafide name to come up when the best off all time discussion comes up.

[blue_dolphin]

Agreed on all counts except the chin part and

Ali has more power, better movement, more fluid, better chin and hands that dont break at every punch.

Having said that Floyd would beat Ali 8 times out of ten if they were the same size.

dropped by a cattle herder named henry cooper. better chin how? floyd faced some of the hardest hitters of his era and never got dropped. more fluid? what does that mean? if you mean slickness then floyd is ahead by MILES. not debateable.

[blue_dolphin]

Ali is a real, bonafide name to come up when the best off all time discussion comes up.

yea. but what does he do better than floyd?

[JayID]

We talking p4p here I'm guessing?

Floyd doesn't have a better jab

Footwork is difficult, as they use it differently. But in terms of quickness of feet p4p? Ali hands down.

Better defense, Floyd on this one.

Better accuracy, I'll give this one to floyd too. Although I think people are to obsessed with the statistics on this one. Talks about his 46% connect rate or something like that. Floyd ONLY throws when he knows he can connect. Whereas other fighters will throw just to stay busy. If they threw when they knew they could connect, i'm sure they would have a much higher connect % too. For example. Other fighters may throw 60-70 punches a round, are they expecting all of those to land? Nope. Floyd might only throw 20-30 per round but he expects them all to land.

Better reflexes? It's really ****ing close, I think they both anticipated what punches were going to be thrown and adjusted accordingly, rather than just blindly using reflexes. But I wouldn't argue either way if you were to give it to one of them specifically.

Better body puncher? Ok this one made me laugh, I saw Ali throw maybe 2 body punches in his entire career.
I mean, by default. I'm a "better" body puncher than Ali. You might as well say that Ali was the better Shuffler. FLoyd never ****ing did it xD

Better adjuster. Sounds like a typical Floyd fanboy phrase if I'm honest. But i'll give it to Floyd, sure.

Better right hand? Just all round? Ali then.

Better Chin: P4p it is hard to say. As we have no way of comparing how hard Mosley/Chino/Canelo can hit vs The George foremans/Earnie Shavers. But just for the sake that Ali fought actual ****ing killers and thrived. I'll give it to Ali.

Better at counter punching. Floyd's bread and butter. I must say, this list is heavily tilted towards floyds best abilities... and Ali still takes around half of them! Might as well make a new list heavily tilted towards Ali and say that Ali was better at "flicking out the jab".

Mayweather is great, but to say that he is better in every way vs other ATG's is ridiculous. You can stop giving him a prostate exam now.

[chitownboxing]

floyd is much, much better.

[BattlingNelson]

yea. but what does he do better than floyd?

Fight and beat the best available opposition?