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  • #61
    Originally posted by KingKrypton View Post
    Pacquiao was scared of a needle. Why did Pacquiao sweat De La Hoya and Cotto down to 146-147 when Mayweather fought them at 154? How many catchweights did Pacquiao fight at in his career? Pacquiao is the real fraud, in and out the ring.
    Mayweather fought both canelo and Márquez at a catch weight. One he didn’t even bother to honor. Just saying.

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    • #62
      Mayweather is turning in to the sports version of Trump - "it's all about me." Calling out Pacquiao and ODH randomly, making announcements during Canelo fights, etc. I respect the guy and what he did, but he needs to move on.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by MexicanStyle#1 View Post
        Hahaha... floyd is the cancer of boxing... he single handedly destroyed boxing. Only fighting for that zero... only fought when he knew he could win. Anyone who says otherwise is black or dont follow boxing.
        Lol what country are you from? Where you are from they only fight when they know they will lose?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by ddeg10 View Post
          Mayweather is turning in to the sports version of Trump - "it's all about me." Calling out Pacquiao and ODH randomly, making announcements during Canelo fights, etc. I respect the guy and what he did, but he needs to move on.
          He has moved on . He has taken his old arse to Japan and fought an exhibition and meanwhile 3000 miles away you have cats while they should be celebrating the new year talking about his back fat, gauging how long he trained for and second guessing if he is broke. We need to move on not him. He just got paid for his services in the industry. We are not getting paid s#hit posting in our spare time but believing our opinion is relevant

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          • #65
            Originally posted by JrRod View Post
            Mayweather fought both canelo and Márquez at a catch weight. One he didn’t even bother to honor. Just saying.
            Just saying nothing. Marquez after being retired for 2 years he overestimated his ability to come down in weight and failed. It cost him 600,000 which I believe Marquez didn’t complain about. As for Canelo you will have to re-jog my memory

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Noelanthony View Post
              Just saying nothing. Marquez after being retired for 2 years he overestimated his ability to come down in weight and failed. It cost him 600,000 which I believe Marquez didn’t complain about. As for Canelo you will have to re-jog my memory
              I personally don’t care about catchweights. They’re part of boxing and have been around for a long time before and after this generation of fighters

              I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy of pointing out that PAC is a fraud for fighting certain fighters at a catch weight while ignoring that Mayweather has done the same.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by .WesternChamp. View Post
                oscar challege pac at 147. had nothing to do with pac. cotto fought pac at 145, prior to that, cotto fought clottey at 146 and won that fight. the question is, why did floyd drained canelo down to 152? and pac never sad he was afraid of needles, if he did, show it!
                Floyd fought Canelo at 152lbs, because Canelo publicly said that he would fight Floyd at 152lbs. Canelo said what he felt he needed to say to make sure that he got the fight, and Floyd held him to it.

                Pacquiao could've done whatever he did for his career (just so that we're clear, there's a distinct difference between coming in light for a fight, as Cotto did for the Clottey fight [possibly a bit overtrained], and being compelled to take your weight cut further than usual, as Cotto did for the Clottey fight [note how Cotto immediately moved up to 154 and stuck there; Cotto was likely near done at the weight, but he and his camp had a way that worked for them for Cotto to get to 147lb and be ok]), he fought Miguel Cotto, after being a 20-year old 112lb fighter, wrecked him at even 145lbs, and the collective boxing world said "what the ****!?".

                Floyd and Pacquiao went into talks for a fight split 50/50 (at the time, folks were talking about the fight maybe ending up with $100m split between the two), and Pacquiao refused over some nonsense about needles and drawing blood made him weak.

                From that point on, Pacquiao was 7-2 with 0 KO's, and the whispers had ballooned into full-throated screams.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by ironlungs View Post
                  Floyd-most talented boxer of our era (skills, boxing iq, speed, defense, and reflexes)

                  Pac-most accomplished boxer (started professionals career at 16 yo under 100 lbs. Winning titles starting at 112 all the way to 154)
                  Won the junior middleweight title at 150lbs, and never actually won one of the belts at 140lbs, so there's that. Besides that, though he hung around for far too long, Roy Jones Jr being 160lb champion, 168lb champion, undisputed 175lb champion, and heavyweight champion, while blowing through that entire run undefeated (Griffin foul aside) was a far bigger accomplishment, imo [Pacquiao-Broner, from 112-130lbs has a decorated resume; cherry picking David Diaz at 135, having 154/160 ODLH walk into the arena for his fight at 147lbs, and cherry picking a one-eyed junior middleweight Margarito with weight issues at 150lbs, doesn't age all that well].

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by JrRod View Post
                    I personally don’t care about catchweights. They’re part of boxing and have been around for a long time before and after this generation of fighters

                    I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy of pointing out that PAC is a fraud for fighting certain fighters at a catch weight while ignoring that Mayweather has done the same.
                    Fair enough. I just feel if you have the skill an extra 2 pounds will not make a difference. Mayweather regularly got in the ring with his opponents outweighing him. With Marquez, PAC and the Japanese guy being the only exceptions.

                    Don’t get me wrong Mayweather does some crap that has me questioning him but this is a boxing forum and his accomplishments in the ring can not be questioned. That’s all I care about. Discussing his love life , how well he can read and dreaming if his money will run out is not my business

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by larryxxx.. View Post
                      I wish we had more frauds in boxing today....Out of 50 fights over half were against current or former champs

                      Canelo
                      Jmm
                      Manny
                      Corrales
                      Hatton

                      were all on the p4p list when he fought them

                      He was lineal at 130,135,147,154

                      if that is a fraud then we need more of them in the sport today
                      So were Oscar and Mosley. Mosley was #3 on the p4p list at the time.

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