Comments Thread For: Joshua Tabs Tyson, Ali & Johnson as His Top 3 Best Heavyweights

[_original_]

Tyson is so overrated, guy might not even be top 10 HW of all time.


In no order:
Louis
Liston
Ali
Dempsey
Foreman
Johnson
Lewis
Holmes
Holyfield
Marciano
Tunney
Fraizer

And probably like 2-3 other guys you could rank over Tyson.

[Marchegiano]

He’s such a casual, I guarantee AJ has never watched a full Jack Johnson fight. He fought for the lineal title btw, not the coveted IBO belt...

That is true, but JJ is also the very first ABC champion. Sullivan-Burns never held a sanctioning bodies' belt because they did not exist yet.

Johnson wins the lineal by 1908 and was recognized as the champion when the IBU forms in 1910, but what is actually interesting is the IBU stripped Johnson of their title prior to the 1915 Willard fight. In 1913, three years after the Jeffries fight, the IBU stripped Jack Johnson when he chose to defend his title against another black boxer named Jim Johnson and because several months prior he was convicted of violating the Mann Act in the US which equated driving a white woman across state lines to "white slavery".

The fight was held in Paris where the IBU was headquartered and came to a draw. Some reports claim it was a very boring fight, other that it was a lively back and forth. All that really matters is Jack kept his title.

Willard would enjoy a total universal reign, but surprisingly Jack Dempsey's reign would see a split between IBU, NYSAC, and NBA. Jack too wins the lineals and sanctioning body titles win he beats Willard in 1919. At the time only the lineal and IBU existed. By 1920 the NYSAC had formed and then in 21 the NBA. Dempsey unifies the NYSAC and NBA but not the IBU to my knowledge.

the IBU, NBA, and NYSAC would not be reunited until the 30s by Sharkey. Which would be short lived given the ****s ended the IBU early in the war.

So while they were Lineal champs without any possible dispute because they are the men who beat the men it isn't right to think of them as exclusively lineal champions like Sullivan through Hart are. They are Lineal +.

[archiemoore1]

Anyone who says mike wasn't top 10 of all time, wasn't in the ring with him. When mike was new on the scene, i used to tell anyone who would listen to keep an eye out for him. He used to make the hair on my arms stand up. Very few fighters had that effect. U knew u were seeing something very different. His prime may have been short but it was brilliant. Always judge a fighter by how he was in his prime, then go from there when comparing to other fighters.

[jas]

ur so hardcore u knew what lineal was as soon as u left ur mothers womb right?

Lol you emotional

Aj bought in many ignorant fanboys

Be a fan of boxing, not just boxers

[djcomplex]

how can he rate these 3 boxers..all of them was lineal champion.... and not one of them won the IBO title a title that joshua got into boxing to win lol

[Oshio]

Really wish Wilder has read any book at all in his entire life, not to talk of one written by a former world champion. Fury has something has. His mouth and action. Guess what? We love his for it

[markther]

So now we officially know Joshua really is the “British Dummy.” I’m not putting Tyson or Johnson in my “top 3.” Holmes gets no respect still despite his dominance in his era. What about Marciano & Louis? One undefeated and Louis beat 8 Hall of Famers. Hell Ezzard Charles beat 8 Hall of Famers too. Jack Johnson beat 7 Hall of Famers. And Holyfield whupped Tyson’s ass not once but twice and took on a bigger Lewis and fought him to a draw at least once and beat Bowe once too. Who did Tyson really beat, Berbick, an undersized and scared Spinks, and an over aged Holmes??? Stop it already British Dummy!!!

[Noelanthony]

I'm not even a fan of Tyson, but the 90's version who beat Ruddock, I'd still take to beat Joshua.
Bowe that fought Holyfield 1 and 2 would destroy Joshua. Lewis is truly on of the GOAT's, his only loss in the whole decade was McCall, before he went with Steward and matured.
So Lewis from mid 90's on, but even Lewis that beat Ruudock in 2, or beat down Bruno would still smash out slow stiff Joshua.

Lewis was knocked out cold by Rahman too. I actually think AJ could beat Rahman. Not suggesting AJ could beat Lewis but it’s boxing anything goes and anything can happen. Who would have thought in the 2018 boxers can blame losing fights on baby oil and their mouth hurting due to continuous talking

[apollocreed]

Lewis was knocked out cold by Rahman too. I actually think AJ could beat Rahman. Not suggesting AJ could beat Lewis but it’s boxing anything goes and anything can happen. Who would have thought in the 2018 boxers can blame losing fights on baby oil and their mouth hurting due to continuous talking

Rahman did when Lewis was unfocused and unprepared. They had an immediate rematch and Lewis knocked him out worse than Rahman did to him, it was brutal.
As I've said, I'm not really a Wilder fan, more a Fury fan, I just think Joshua is ****.

[Noelanthony]

Lol you emotional

Aj bought in many ignorant fanboys

Be a fan of boxing, not just boxers

You should take your own advice bro