Funny how AJ will be hated on for fighting whyte

[Laligalaliga]

Fury is better and more accomplished than all of them and there really isn't much debate about that.

WTF? Dude, you are ******ed.

Fury is good no doubt but the lady couldn't defend his belts to justify it wasn't a one lucky night.
Am sure it's AJ's fault he went clubbing and bannging and sniffing.

Winning 4 belts in a night could be a lucky shot. Defending them is what shows your character and toughness. Fury did neither of that. So what the hell are you talking about?

[The Big Dunn]

You can't defend Wilder for turning down the offer to fight AJ in April by saying "Deontay can't do it because he's rematching Fury" and criticise AJ for fighting Whyte instread of Wilder on that same date!

Whether you think Hearn always prefered Whyte is irrelevant, the date is there now for Wilder if he wants it.

AJ is getting criticized because his avoiding Wilder and choosing povetkin put wilder in position where he had to find an easy win so as not to derail in the event Hearn offered him a real deal to fight after he beat Povetkin. That backfired on Wilder because Fury was beating his ass and IMO won save for the 12th rd KD.

Wilder can't take the date now because because he would appear as if he is ducking a man who beat him. Wilder being forced to give Fury a rematch because he sh-t the bed is very convenient for AJ, but it doesn't change the fact AJ/Hearn planned to fight whyte or Miller next.

[R_Walken]

It could be argued fury got lucky at the night wlad didn't turn up and won all the belts in one fight then go aloof.

AJ at the other hand won this same belts in 3 fights. Fury never had any unification match till date, AJ has two and is going for the undisputed.
No other way to show heart and dominance of a division.

Fury is low risk fight even to AJ than wilder.
Fighting Fury, you are sure he can't KO.

It's a well known fact.

Stop it

It’s not luck when you go to the champs backyard and pitch a damn near shutout , you can’t spin a luck narrative non furys win , Sorry man

Yes AJ won those straps on 3 different fights but it was also against Charles Martin , Klit who hadn’t fought since he lost to Fury and Parker who hadn’t had a decent performance since he won the strap and none of those fights were against elite HWs

Surely going on the road and beating the man who held on to them for years should be held in higher regard

[The Big Dunn]

This is another lie. Hearn delayed the actual WBA sanctioning the Povetkin fight for 2 months to get the Wilder fight done. The crap flat was agreed to and then publicly declined which then and only then Povetkins team took action. Stop lying.

The flat fee offer from Hearn went from 12 to 15 mil, so Wilder refused as anyone would in that situation. He gave him 48 hours to agree so of course it would be refused.

AJ is the a side so if he wanted to fight Wilder the offer from Hearn would've reflected that.

[kafkod]

AJ was set to fight Povetkin but pretended he wanted Wilder.

That's just your own biased opinion. The facts are that he sent Wilder a contract which Wilder didn't sign and was then ordered to fight Povetkin by the WBA.

Wilder fought Ortiz and Fury, who are seen as better and more dangerous than Povetkin and Takam. Lennox Lewis is on record as saying AJ seems afraid.

Wilder also made the mistake of thinking that a sub-par version of Fury was on the same level as Ortiz, which was why he wanted to fight him. That proved to be a big mistake. Nobody should be comparing Fury to Ortiz any longer.

Lennox Lewis works for PBC. Nothing he says about Wilder and AJ matters a damn.

why is it ok to see a fight we know the outcome rather than have AJ fight a top 4 guy he hasn't fought yet like Ortiz?

We can debate if whyte or ortiz is better, but whyte got his shot and got KTFO. There is no need for a rematch.

It's misleading to talk about Whyte getting his shot as if he had already fought for AJ's titles. The fact is, AJ and Dillian fought each other when they were both prospects on the way up, and they have both improved immeasurably since then.

Unlike Ortiz, who did get a title shot, got KTFO, and has beaten nobody of consequence since, Dillian Whyte has never fought for a world title and has done more than enough to earn a shot. And Wilder isn't going to give him one, we know that for sure.

[REDEEMER]

The flat fee offer from Hearn went from 12 to 15 mil, so Wilder refused as anyone would in that situation. He gave him 48 hours to agree so of course it would be refused.

AJ is the a side so if he wanted to fight Wilder the offer from Hearn would've reflected that.

Finkel publicly accepted the 15 million and it's on record. Finkel had 2 weeks to sign it so there's actually 2 lies here bc 24 hours wasn't the issue , no date and venue was.....

This is lie number 3 post already with just me not including the others you are posting to, do you work for Finkel by chance? Ha

[W1LL]

Ironic that a notorious AJ nuthugger has a Lennox Lewis avatar. You know Lewis fully supports Fury and Wilder in their attempts to clean up the division right? He frowns upon AJ/Hearn's attempts to monopolize the division while avoiding the biggest risks.

[kafkod]

AJ is getting criticized because his avoiding Wilder and choosing povetkin put wilder in position where he had to find an easy win so as not to derail in the event Hearn offered him a real deal to fight after he beat Povetkin. That backfired on Wilder because Fury was beating his ass and IMO won save for the 12th rd KD.

Wilder can't take the date now because because he would appear as if he is ducking a man who beat him. Wilder being forced to give Fury a rematch because he sh-t the bed is very convenient for AJ, but it doesn't change the fact AJ/Hearn planned to fight whyte or Miller next.

There is no rematch obligation for Fury and Wilder because their fight ended in a draw. They haven't even agreed terms for a rematch, let alone signed contacts for one, and Fury's trainer has gone on record saying that his preferred option is for Wilder to fight AJ next, with Fury then fighting the winner.

It's going to be fun seeing you guys turning facts inside out to try and put the blame on Hearn and AJ if Wilder can't make a deal with Fury and ends up fighting Breazeale instead!

[The Big Dunn]

Finkel publicly accepted the 15 million and it's on record. Finkel had 2 weeks to sign it so there's actually 2 lies here bc 24 hours wasn't the issue , no date and venue was.....

This is lie number 3 post already with just me not including the others you are posting to, do you work for Finkel by chance? Ha

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-i-accept-flat-fee-now-its-50-50-joshua-fight--129548

Wilder: I Won't Accept Flat Fee; Now It's 50-50 for Joshua Fight
By Keith Idec

If Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder win their upcoming fights, Wilder won’t accept a flat fee for facing Joshua next.

Wilder revealed his new stance on negotiations for their heavyweight showdown during the latest installment of Showtime’s digital talk show, “Below The Belt.” In an interview with host Brendan Schaub taped Thursday in Los Angeles, Wilder contended it’ll now take a 50-50 split for him to accept a deal with Joshua.

“If it come about that way, it gonna be 50-50 straight across,” Wilder said. “I’m not accepting no flat fees, no none of that. We done with that, and I can smile and say we done with that, bro. I done everything [to make the fight happen].”

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Wilder’s full interview with Schaub will debut on the “Below The Belt” YouTube channel and Facebook page Friday at 7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT.

Eddie Hearn, Joshua’s promoter, most recently offered Wilder a $15 million flat fee to fight Joshua in October or November in the United Kingdom. Hearn previously offered Wilder a $12.5 million flat fee for their heavyweight showdown.

Between those two offers, Shelly Finkel, Wilder’s co-manager, and Al Haymon, Wilder’s adviser, offered Joshua a $50 million guarantee to battle Wilder in the United States. Once Hearn informed them that their huge heavyweight title unification fight had to take place in the United Kingdom, Wilder was willing to make that transatlantic trip for the biggest fight of his career.

Their potential fight fell apart Tuesday when WBA president Gilberto Mendoza gave Hearn and Andrey Ryabinskiy, Alexander Povetkin’s promoter, a 24-hour window within which to finalize a deal for Joshua’s mandatory title defense against Povetkin. Mendoza issued the Joshua-Povetkin ultimatum because he had granted Hearn multiple extensions to complete a Joshua-Wilder unification fight and that hadn’t happened.

It hasn’t been officially announced, but Joshua and Povetkin are expected to fight September 22 at Wembley Stadium in London.

Above is wilder declining it on record after he accepted it.

[Mr Giggles]

But he’s already knocked whyte out cold and now AJ is even better.

If this fight gets made, AJ will lose respect.

I would rather see AJ vs ortiz than this rubbish