Comments Thread For: Lennox Lewis: Joshua Does Not Want Wilder or Fury Right Now

[aboutfkntime]

I just popped in to hear the b,b,b,b,but.....

" lewis old doe "

" lewis duck klitschko doe "

[MisanthropicNY]

Joshua knows damn well Fury would give him a boxing lesson. He's way too stiff. It's an even easier fight than Wilder for Fury.

[Detroit29]

Dude, what are u talking about? Widler was set to be ringside to do commentary dor the Pov/AJ fight. Wilder said he would do it under one condition....if he was allowed to confront AJ in the ring afterwards. Couple days before the fight, Wilder was told he couldn't confront AJ. Hearn even added extra security around the ring to make sure AJ stayed safe.

[aboutfkntime]

Dude, what are u talking about? Widler was set to be ringside to do commentary dor the Pov/AJ fight. Wilder said he would do it under one condition....if he was allowed to confront AJ in the ring afterwards. Couple days before the fight, Wilder was told he couldn't confront AJ. Hearn even added extra security around the ring to make sure AJ stayed safe.

if Hearn REALLY wanted that fight, he would have rolled out the red carpet for Wilder..... not built a wall

so obvious whats up

[nick_viking]

"I think he’s too happy in England being protected and boxing in front of the British crowds.” - Lennox Lewis

I don't think Joshua is happy right now! Wilder and Fury have stolen the show, and he knows he missed a golden opportunity earlier this year! Now add to that, that there is a good chance Wilder loses in the rematch! All those U.S. dollars are gone! (After watching Canelo in MSG, Joshua understands what a "World Champion" looks like!) He can get some of that with Miller in NYC, but it's nothing like it would've been had he fought Wilder! Lastly, if Fury wins, Joshua becomes "the other guy!"

I think Whyte deserves a shot, but I think Eddie's idea of Khan vs. Brook in Wembley on April 13th, and Joshua vs. Miller in NYC, is brilliant! I would suggest letting Whyte fighting Usyk in the UK, and guaranteeing the winner a shot at the Joshua vs. Miller winner!

Agree with that, Joshua has changed his tune a little bit recently - whether that’s just saying in public what he’d been saying in private, or that he’s more confident having seen the Fury fight, who knows.

It might just be me, but I don’t think Brook v Khan is a Wembley fight anymore - now if they did a double headliner with Whyte v Usyk, then count me in!

[Nusky]

It's open season on this coward Joshua. His own people don't even back him anymore. He's a proven liar and coward. Lennox just spoke the truth plain and simple.

[billeau2]

I don’t like Lewis . No real reason really just have never taken to him. A great fighter can not take that away from him and Frankly he is entitled to his opinion and because of what he accomplished their is truth in his words. However, I do remember when he too was offered a lot of money to rematch Vitali and he chose to retire.

Now look at what Mayweather accomplished but he is never Quick to give compliments to current fighters even when they have not achieved a quarter of what Mayweather did. Yes logically you will say why would Lennox be jealous but Lennox didn’t endure the adulation of the British public likE Joshua receives. Maybe he doesn’t feel appreciated but I’m definitely not going to criticise him because he has an opinion on a boxer. Some of his comments are funny. Whilst he was commentating on the Wilder vs Fury fight he said both fighters were boxing magnificently. He is a nice guy old Lennox

Thats a point that gets forgotten these days, especially as the fan base changes, and the inevitable pigeons become eagles! With Lewis, like Holmes, its actually the opposite effect: For a good deal of his career Lewis was disrespected. He was also diminished... While fighting all comers in the process.

The clue to what you are saying can be gleaned from Lewis' reaction to the Vitali fight. One would expect Lewis to say something along the lines of "He (Vitali) fought a great fight, I just showed the heart of a champ....yada yada." Lewis also had the excuse, if he wanted to use it...that he had not trained for the fight. After all Kirk Johnson was not even near a threat to Lewis, so why would Lewis train up to fight Johnson?

I mention this reasoning on the part of Lewis because, He used that same excuse when he fought poorly against Ray Mercer... Came right out and said "I trained for the wrong fight." And when he made this statement? He was not flustered, not upset in the slightest. It was said matter of fact.

Now... With Vitali not only did Lewis not say this, he was seething mad. He resented that people would question his win over Vitali, especially the sports people asking him questions. You could practically read his mind: "All these years I win, with a few hiccups that I took care of, I am consistent, I take on all commers....I get one slight break, that I am not even responsible for (decision wise) and they question my win!!?"

I think he felt really betrayed and expected people would give him that break so to speak. This showed that Lewis was very sensative about this issue of fans standing behind him. SO when he sees a young handsome, well spoken, talented guy like AJ? I think he does have some resentment that he was not given the same red carpet treatment.

When Sony Liston won the championship from Patterson, he came back by plane and was expecting a parade, a crowd to greet him, and nobody was there... It broke his heart.

[Lazy Jab]

Using that same logic, if Wilder wanted the Joshua fight he would have gone to the Parker or Povetkin fights. Yes or no?

In your warped little mind Wilder doesn't want Joshua because he hasn't been attending his fights.

I think that logic is ridiculous as well I think Joshua just didn't wanna financially contribute to the fight.

The fight not happening has more to do with their promoters managers, etc,.. Wilder does genuinely want the fight though imo, sooner rather than later. Hes still undefeated, still has the strap and hes not getting any younger, hell be 34 this upcoming year, 35 in 2020. The more time passes the odds increase in AJs favor. Hes a cash cow for Matchroom and the belts make him more marketable.. so if Hearn is gonna risk his cash cow its gonna be to someone he promotes, who will Probably have to extend their own contract to get the AJ fight..as long as those belts stay at matchroom. After the risk has gone down on the likelyhood of losing to Wilder, only then they'll make that fight.

Whether AJ wants to or will fight Wilder is something else.

[Noelanthony]

Thats a point that gets forgotten these days, especially as the fan base changes, and the inevitable pigeons become eagles! With Lewis, like Holmes, its actually the opposite effect: For a good deal of his career Lewis was disrespected. He was also diminished... While fighting all comers in the process.

The clue to what you are saying can be gleaned from Lewis' reaction to the Vitali fight. One would expect Lewis to say something along the lines of "He (Vitali) fought a great fight, I just showed the heart of a champ....yada yada." Lewis also had the excuse, if he wanted to use it...that he had not trained for the fight. After all Kirk Johnson was not even near a threat to Lewis, so why would Lewis train up to fight Johnson?

I mention this reasoning on the part of Lewis because, He used that same excuse when he fought poorly against Ray Mercer... Came right out and said "I trained for the wrong fight." And when he made this statement? He was not flustered, not upset in the slightest. It was said matter of fact.

Now... With Vitali not only did Lewis not say this, he was seething mad. He resented that people would question his win over Vitali, especially the sports people asking him questions. You could practically read his mind: "All these years I win, with a few hiccups that I took care of, I am consistent, I take on all commers....I get one slight break, that I am not even responsible for (decision wise) and they question my win!!?"

I think he felt really betrayed and expected people would give him that break so to speak. This showed that Lewis was very sensative about this issue of fans standing behind him. SO when he sees a young handsome, well spoken, talented guy like AJ? I think he does have some resentment that he was not given the same red carpet treatment.

When Sony Liston won the championship from Patterson, he came back by plane and was expecting a parade, a crowd to greet him, and nobody was there... It broke his heart.

Well articulated

[Noelanthony]

I think that logic is ridiculous as well I think Joshua just didn't wanna financially contribute to the fight.

The fight not happening has more to do with their promoters managers, etc,.. Wilder does genuinely want the fight though imo, sooner rather than later. Hes still undefeated, still has the strap and hes not getting any younger, hell be 34 this upcoming year, 35 in 2020. The more time passes the odds increase in AJs favor. Hes a cash cow for Matchroom and the belts make him more marketable.. so if Hearn is gonna risk his cash cow its gonna be to someone he promotes, who will Probably have to extend their own contract to get the AJ fight..as long as those belts stay at matchroom. After the risk has gone down on the likelyhood of losing to Wilder, only then they'll make that fight.

Whether AJ wants to or will fight Wilder is something else.

All I keep hearing is conspiracy theories from Wilder fans. Can a honest Wilder fan tell me what has Wilder said within the last 3 days in regards to facing AJ? Is he Keen? If not why not? Please don’t mention Fury fury coch has said Wilder should fight AJ . If Wilder ends up fighting Breazeale would any of you see that’s a duck? Probably not