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People don't realize how big of a step up ggg is to charlo. I mean his best win is against an old man trout who's a 154 lber and he went 12 rds. He's not getting a decision against ggg and he's not knocking him out.Comment
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Apparently GGG's cut came from a Canelo elbow anyway. Artorios found it in the footage and posted slowmo on twitter, probably his youtube channel too. So these guys argument just got that much weaker. GGG is old anyway. Jacobs said he is past prime. Andrade just called him old. Hopkins said he was old two years before Canelo even fought him, and Hopkins is Canelo's *****ing promoter. So if GGG got beat up the first time he fought the elite, but he's also old, that just proves the point that the elite would not "step up" to fight him until he got old, negating any success they had in their fights. Jacobs, I like the dude, but he's still only fought one prime elite opponent, and that was Pirog, and he got knocked out. Canelo has still only fought one prime elite opponent, Floyd, and Floyd beat the **** out of him. Jacobs was going through a lot, however, and Canelo was drained, so I give them those excuses, absolutely, because they're true, but their performances against GGG? Those don't count for **** because he was old. Period. And everyone the last few years is finally admitting it, not just me.
All anyone needs to do is just watch the Louis-Marciano fight on youtube, and listen to the commentator talk about how "Louis used to throw barrages to the body, but at his age, he doesnt have the stamina to throw barrages, and his hands are no longer fast enough to reach down to the body. All Louis had left at this point in his career as far as offensive weaponry was his jab, which he uses to good effect in this round." I was listening to that thinking, yup, that's what I just watched with GGG-Jacobs and GGG-Canelo twice, and yup yup, exactly, there's another great point, and oh yeah, yup, now I remember, Joe Louis was the boxer that Kellerman most compared GGG to in his prime along with Chavez Sr, and yup, it fits perfectly.
So people can talk all the **** they want. I just want the best boxers to start getting chances in their primes. Hopefully the next gen of boxers like GGG figure out that their careers will also be ruined like this unless they get to the US much earlier and get in position to get those big fights when they're 25 years old, instead of 30, so that if their rivals try to wait them out and duck them, they're going to need to do it for 7 or 8 years, not just 2 or 3 years, and many of them will be older than the next GGG's if the next GGG's come over at 25, so they might not have that option. It wouldn't surprise me to see Bivol get some good fights before he's old because he came over younger (plus he's not as feared as GGG). That's what the rest of them need to do too. Once that happens, they will start winning their big fights a good percentage of the time, and hopefully then these biased fans will have no more excuses left to stop giving these guys their respect.
All I worry about is how rare is GGG? By the time the next gen comes over earlier and gets their opportunities, they may be more Mikkel Kessler than GGG and they may lose. Then these haters will say the same ****. "GGG lost, you said he was old. Now this guy is in his prime, but he lost too. Just admit it they are all eurobums and great white hypes and you're a racist" (which is what they like to say and what many comments have said to me, in their own words). That's my biggest worry about the next gen in boxing. Prime GGG was the perfect guy to show these haters how to be fair, and how biased they've been in the past, but he never got a chance to prove that, and ultimately his career was manipulated in such a way by the boxing establishment as to only prove the haters right, in their own minds, the exact opposite of what his talent, in his prime, had the potential to do. It's almost like Star Wars ep 3, "you were supposed to be the chosen one, you were supposed to bring balance to the force, not destroy it."
It's a disappointing story, GGG's career. But hopefully the future of boxing will prove better than the embarrassing last 10 years where many fighters, not just GGG, had their potential and their legacies ruined by ducking and boxing politics.Last edited by Boxing Logic; 12-22-2018, 07:51 PM.Comment
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He has only lost one fight for crying out loud at age 36. Personally I had him beating Canelo both times but even if Canelo did get the win in the rematch that's still a very good record. Yeah I'd say he's done well at the top level. If you want to play that game who has Canelo beat that's an elite fighter. Trout? Trout is good but not elite. Canelo struggled against Lara, underperformed against Cotto who was beaten by two smaller fighters and his best days were behind him, beat up a weight drained Chavez Jr. who was never elite, lost to Mayweather. Most people had him losing to Golovkin and getting a gift from the judges.Comment
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