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  • #61
    Originally posted by killakali View Post
    LOL. I like how you say "Haymon/Floyd would have just won the purse bid" LOLOL. Would they win it the way they won the Mickey Bey Denis Shafikov purse bid? Or how about the Peter Quillin-Matt Korobov purse bid? Who won those again? LOL.

    Or better yet when Tank first got his title where was his first defense at? Was it in the US or did he go overseas? Remind me again. Where did he fight Liam Walsh.

    As for Bivol, Jack already passed up that opportunity and where does Bivol fight again? Oh thats right he is either going to DAZN or ESPN and mostly likely will be DAZN. Didnt Floyd and Haymon already turn down going to DAZN for a Tank vs Farmer fight?

    Purse bid thats right. That will be funny since DAZN reportedly has offered Bivol a 3 fight 6 million dollar deal. Would be fun to see Floyd and Haymon try to beat them out in a purse bid situation.

    What is more likely and what will happen is Haymon will never ask for the WBA mandatory to be forced and the WBA won't do it for years. That way PBC can keep putting on cards for the fake interim title that never needed to be created anyway.
    If Bivol goes to DAZN? Sure, the purse bid becomes harder. If Bivol goes to TR? Yeah, pretty sure Haymon will win that one.

    Mikey Bey/Shafikov? Really? You're going to compare that to Jack/Bivol? Jack is actually a guy invested in with SHO, not Bey. Terrible comparison. Adonis Stevenson was someone invested in SHO and they clearly beat out TR for that purse bid as well.

    Um, Jack turned down Bivol when he had a shot with Stevenson lined up. You said this screws the PBC since they won't have any title shots for their fighter. Literally only Jack is the big name LHW remaining. So yes, there is an opportunity to get a title shot if they want it with Bivol. That was the point. And it was wrong when stated the winner of Jack/Browne will be lined up for Gvozdyk since this is for the interim WBA belt. The WBC eliminator was bypassed once that happened.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by killakali View Post
      he already had the relationship with Haymon in the US and still preferred this over anything Haymon offered him.
      Eleider Alvarez wasn't a champion yet and, most importantly, Eleider Alvarez didn't have the profile to carry his own big event yet.

      Stopping Sergey Kovalev to win the WBO's title and beating Kovalev in the contracted rematch, would've made Alvarez viable enough to carry his own event, with the headline TV interest coming along with that.

      Why act as if Top Rank was dangling such an offer to Alvarez before he beat Kovalev, lol.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
        Eleider Alvarez wasn't a champion yet and, most importantly, Eleider Alvarez didn't have the profile to carry his own big event yet.

        Stopping Sergey Kovalev to win the WBO's title and beating Kovalev in the contracted rematch, would've made Alvarez viable enough to carry his own event, with the headline TV interest coming along with that.

        Why act as if Top Rank was dangling such an offer to Alvarez before he beat Kovalev, lol.
        Eleider Alvarez wasn't a champion because Haymon stalled his career. Let's call a spade a spade.

        Then Michel (Not Haymon) worked a deal with Main Events to get him a shot after Marcus Browne fell out after Main Events had worked a deal with Connolly.

        So Alvarez wins the title and has to have a rematch per contract and Main Events sells rights to Top Rank. Alvarez could have just fought Kovalev and win lose or draw gone back to PBC.

        Haymon never made an offer as lucrative as Top Rank or to keep him as active so Michel and Alvarez went with Top Rank instead of Top Rank. That is the truth. Stop spinning.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by killakali View Post
          Eleider Alvarez wasn't a champion because Haymon stalled his career. Let's call a spade a spade.

          Then Michel (Not Haymon) worked a deal with Main Events to get him a shot after Marcus Browne fell out after Main Events had worked a deal with Connolly.

          So Alvarez wins the title and has to have a rematch per contract and Main Events sells rights to Top Rank. Alvarez could have just fought Kovalev and win lose or draw gone back to PBC.

          Haymon never made an offer as lucrative as Top Rank or to keep him as active so Michel and Alvarez went with Top Rank instead of Top Rank. That is the truth. Stop spinning.
          Lol^^^^^^^^^^^

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          • #65
            Originally posted by KTFOKING View Post
            If Bivol goes to DAZN? Sure, the purse bid becomes harder. If Bivol goes to TR? Yeah, pretty sure Haymon will win that one.

            Mikey Bey/Shafikov? Really? You're going to compare that to Jack/Bivol? Jack is actually a guy invested in with SHO, not Bey. Terrible comparison. Adonis Stevenson was someone invested in SHO and they clearly beat out TR for that purse bid as well.

            Um, Jack turned down Bivol when he had a shot with Stevenson lined up. You said this screws the PBC since they won't have any title shots for their fighter. Literally only Jack is the big name LHW remaining. So yes, there is an opportunity to get a title shot if they want it with Bivol. That was the point. And it was wrong when stated the winner of Jack/Browne will be lined up for Gvozdyk since this is for the interim WBA belt. The WBC eliminator was bypassed once that happened.
            remember Jack isn’t a Haymon fighter. How hard does he want to push for a purse bid for a fighter who isn’t his? Especially now he lost Alvarez and Beterbiev. It’s a fair comparison. Bey was a floyd fighter and not a Haymon fighter. Same scenario.

            U conveniently forget the Quillin-Korobov purse bid loss.

            I still say Haymon will just use the fake wba interim belt for Jack, Edwin rodriguez, Top dog and Browne. Haymon has a lot of guys at the weight. Just not the elite.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
              Lol^^^^^^^^^^^
              Lol Sciputo^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

              Exactly. You got shut down (again) and had no argument.

              If Alvarez went to top rank because Haymon thought it was best for him then Haymon would have already worked a deal with Jermall to go to DAZN since all the big money fights are there instead of wasting away at pbc with the Matt Korobovs, Willie Monroe’s and Hugo Centeno’s.

              You got shut down by me line always lmmmmaaaaaaaooooo

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              • #67
                Originally posted by killakali View Post
                Eleider Alvarez wasn't a champion because Haymon stalled his career. Let's call a spade a spade.

                Then Michel (Not Haymon) worked a deal with Main Events to get him a shot after Marcus Browne fell out after Main Events had worked a deal with Connolly.

                So Alvarez wins the title and has to have a rematch per contract and Main Events sells rights to Top Rank. Alvarez could have just fought Kovalev and win lose or draw gone back to PBC.

                Haymon never made an offer as lucrative as Top Rank or to keep him as active so Michel and Alvarez went with Top Rank instead of Top Rank. That is the truth. Stop spinning.
                looks like Haymon wins again lmaoooo

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
                  looks like Haymon wins again lmaoooo
                  U mean lost again lmaaaooooooo

                  At least he was leeching a percentage of Alvarez’s purse for basically doing nothing.

                  Now Kovalev is back in the spotlight while alvarez takes a big step back in purses. All this did was cost Haymon money.

                  Arum has Kovalev and alvarez so Arum wins again lmmaaaaooooo

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by killakali View Post
                    U mean lost again lmaaaooooooo

                    At least he was leeching a percentage of Alvarez’s purse for basically doing nothing.

                    Now Kovalev is back in the spotlight while alvarez takes a big step back in purses. All this did was cost Haymon money.

                    Arum has Kovalev and alvarez so Arum wins again lmmaaaaooooo
                    Yea because Kovalev and Alvarez are big stars lmaoooooo Arum got hosed

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by killakali View Post
                      U mean lost again lmaaaooooooo

                      At least he was leeching a percentage of Alvarez’s purse for basically doing nothing.

                      Now Kovalev is back in the spotlight while alvarez takes a big step back in purses. All this did was cost Haymon money.

                      Arum has Kovalev and alvarez so Arum wins again lmmaaaaooooo
                      I don't think the last part is true....at least not yet. Kovalev is likely to stay at TR, but I haven't read anywhere that he has signed a co-promotional deal with TR or anything. Kovalev is in a great position though. DAZN desperately needs an opponent for Bivol and ESPN wants to control the LHW division and they would do that with Kovalev being their third champion. Fair to say Kovalev is about to get PAID! Good for him....That is if he gets past the domestic violence charges.

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