Comments Thread For: Breazeale Wants His Wilder Shot: I'm The WBC Mandatory!

[Cauliflower ear]

wilder himself was the mandatory in 2015.

povetkin was the mandatory in 2016, but was caught cheating multiple times.

stiverne was the mandatory in 2017 and got his title shot.

breazeale was the mandatory in 2018, but has the same manager as wilder and that manager has decided to wait until the fight can be built up more.

the wbc isn't going to have a problem with the mandatory being delayed if the challenger doesn't ask for the fight to be ordered.

had whyte beaten ortiz in a final eliminator, he could have demanded that breazeale forfeit his spot if he didn't ask for the wilder fight to be ordered.

but as long as nobody is pressuring the wbc to order the fight, they have no reason to order it.

So let me get this straight...Whyte who has fought Dave Allen , Robert Helenius and Lucas Browne for the WBC silver/interim or whatever b.s. they wish to call it has to fight Ortiz?, why?....Ortiz hasn't fought for the silver...in fact the last time he fought for any wbc buckle was 6 years ago against former 154lber Ep Mendoza and that was ahem...the Latino heavyweight title....how has a guy whos only fight for the WBC in 6 years resulted in him getting floored 3 times and stopped, how is he in a position to fight for a mandatory?.

It's no wonder Whyte told the WBC to go **** itself, All that BS and Wilder saying he will make him wait 2 years even if he is mandatory...it's a disgrace...Tyson Fury aswell , ranked 6th by the WBC without even being enrolled in thier mandatory testing....it all stinks.

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So let me get this straight...Whyte who has fought Dave Allen , Robert Helenius and Lucas Browne for the WBC silver/interim or whatever b.s. they wish to call it has to fight Ortiz?, why?

Ortiz was the highest ranked contender willing to participate in the eliminator.

Whyte isn't interim champion. The silver title guarantees you nothing other than a top 15 rating.

To become mandatory, you win a final eliminator. Very simple. Whyte continues to refuse to participate in a final eliminator. Not just for the WBC. He also pulled out of an IBF final eliminator.

[Cauliflower ear]

Ortiz was the highest ranked contender willing to participate in the eliminator.

Whyte isn't interim champion. The silver title guarantees you nothing other than a top 15 rating.

To become mandatory, you win a final eliminator. Very simple. Whyte continues to refuse to participate in a final eliminator. Not just for the WBC. He also pulled out of an IBF final eliminator.

I didn't actually say interim champion, I was paraphrasing(badly as it turns out) saying the silver is an interim for the mandatory, ie a 2nd mandatory...but looking at the rules yes your correct the silver means nothing and he would still have to fight a final eliminator for 2nd mandatory as crazy as it is... and it still stinks.

I cant really have a pop at Whyte for pulling out of the IBF what with the WBO mandatory coming up for Joshua.

Can you clear up the Fury being ranked in the top ten whilst not enrolled in thier testing? And why he was rated so highly without facing anybody?.

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I cant really have a pop at Whyte for pulling out of the IBF what with the WBO mandatory coming up for Joshua.

When he pulled out of the IBF final eliminator and when he pulled out of the WBC final eliminator, Povetkin was the WBO mandatory.

Which begs the question, did his promoter know he had enough stroke with the WBO to get Povetkin removed as mandatory and replaced by Whyte without Whyte having to fight a final eliminator? Maybe so.

But too soon to know if the plan will actually work. Arum is demanding a final eliminator between Whyte and Jennings. The WBO has yet to rule. Maybe Hearn's plan will backfire, maybe it won't. We'll see. But no matter how you slice it, you can't claim a guy deserves a title shot when he's consistently refusing to earn one.

Can you clear up the Fury being ranked in the top ten whilst not enrolled in thier testing? And why he was rated so highly without facing anybody?.

Fury is being tested. You get kicked out of the ratings if you don't enroll, but he did end up enrolling in time.

Fury is #3 in Boxrec, so I don't really see how you can complain about him being #3 in one of the sanctioning bodies.

[Laligalaliga]

povetkin was caught cheating again in the lead up to an interim title fight with stiverne, so stiverne was made mandatory.

Was Breazeale a mandatory before Ortiz fight?

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Was Breazeale a mandatory before Ortiz fight?

The night Wilder fought his mandatory, Breazeale fought on the undercard to become the next mandatory. Were you not watching boxing last year?

[Laligalaliga]

wilder himself was the mandatory in 2015.

povetkin was the mandatory in 2016, but was caught cheating multiple times.

stiverne was the mandatory in 2017 and got his title shot.

breazeale was the mandatory in 2018, but has the same manager as wilder and that manager has decided to wait until the fight can be built up more.

the wbc isn't going to have a problem with the mandatory being delayed if the challenger doesn't ask for the fight to be ordered.

had whyte beaten ortiz in a final eliminator, he could have demanded that breazeale forfeit his spot if he didn't ask for the wilder fight to be ordered.

but as long as nobody is pressuring the wbc to order the fight, they have no reason to order it.

IBF doesn't need any body to pressure them to order a mandatory.
It's a statutory right that was earned through fighting. These excuses you lined up cannot fly.

If WBC continue in this line, they will either be begging fighters to fight for their belts or have very weak fighters as mandatory.

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IBF doesn't need any body to pressure them to order a mandatory.
It's a statutory right that was earned through fighting. These excuses you lined up cannot fly.

It's a statutory right in the WBC as well. The difference is that in the WBC, if the challenger is willing to wait, and the champion is willing to wait, the WBC has no objection.

In the IBF, if the challenger waits, they are replaced by a different challenger. If you prefer the IBF's methods, that's fine with me.

If WBC continue in this line, they will either be begging fighters to fight for their belts or have very weak fighters as mandatory.

Thank you for your inexperienced amateur opinion. In reality, the IBF is the one having the exact problem you describe. IBF mandatories are much weaker than WBC mandatories. The WBC being lax about mandatories makes being WBC champion far more appealing to top fighters.

[Laligalaliga]

When he pulled out of the IBF final eliminator and when he pulled out of the WBC final eliminator, Povetkin was the WBO mandatory.

Which begs the question, did his promoter know he had enough stroke with the WBO to get Povetkin removed as mandatory and replaced by Whyte without Whyte having to fight a final eliminator? Maybe so.

But too soon to know if the plan will actually work. Arum is demanding a final eliminator between Whyte and Jennings. The WBO has yet to rule. Maybe Hearn's plan will backfire, maybe it won't. We'll see. But no matter how you slice it, you can't claim a guy deserves a title shot when he's consistently refusing to earn one.




Fury is being tested. You get kicked out of the ratings if you don't enroll, but he did end up enrolling in time.

Fury is #3 in Boxrec, so I don't really see how you can complain about him being #3 in one of the sanctioning bodies.

I can see your sense of reasoning. Whyte does not deserve a title shot but Ortiz deserve a shot with AJ for beating kauffman. Very good.

Remind me where kauffman is ranked again.

[Laligalaliga]

Ortiz was the highest ranked contender willing to participate in the eliminator.

Whyte isn't interim champion. The silver title guarantees you nothing other than a top 15 rating.

To become mandatory, you win a final eliminator. Very simple. Whyte continues to refuse to participate in a final eliminator. Not just for the WBC. He also pulled out of an IBF final eliminator.

I thought you said you know shhyte about boxing and it's business. If you were managing whyte, you will advice him to go for IBF eliminator for a 25% reward when he can headline his ppv event in the UK and make so much more and still be in line for a mandatory for the WBO title shot.

You know no shyyte. Go drink some beer.