Comments Thread For: Hearn: DAZN wants Canelo to Fight Jacobs and GGG Next Year
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Let me guess who would Canelo prefer to fight last between Jacobs and GGG: who gets older and more and more moves away from his prime?
Frankly I dont care for Canelo vs GGG 3. Especially if the fight is in Vegas. Another robbery in the making. GGG proved his level when in his prime Canelo couldn't convincingly win even once. Imagine GGG was 32 vs current Canelo.
3rd fight should be on neutral ground. Like in Moscow for exampleComment
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Who knows. Me, personally, 10 dollars is a steal and I’d get whichever subscription the top fighter in the sport goes to. I’m a fan of the sport first and fighter second and at the end of the day, I want to see the best guys fight and why they put asses in seats.
If you follow the sport to the extent you know who Charlo AND Fielding are and you don’t have DAZN you’re either poor or Floyd Mayweather jr. Honestly I’d be interested to hear WHY such a person didnt have a subscription.
If someone doesnt want to subscribe to DAZN (or any platform for that matter) to watch the best MW AND the best HW fight who also happen to be the biggest draws in the sport, then it sounds like you either can’t afford it or don’t care for the sport to the extent others do. That’s just how it seems. As an adult I spend so much money on dumb s hit that I’d rather have separate services for specifically what I want. If I just wanted HBO, Showtime, Hulu, ESPN, Netlix, I’d be paying less than I would for traditional cable and instead of changing the channel I’m changing the app and I’m watching exactly what I want to watch and I’m getting what I pay for.
Whenever anyone says they aren’t convinced I’m just like..how old are you? What needs convincing? You can watch real live men box...like you could on a different channel? They’re not trying to convince you on a flat earth theory. What’s to be skeptical of? It’s pro boxing for f ucks sake. You dont watch boxing for their perfect politics. Since as early as anyone can ever remember, the best fighters have never gone 50-0 in their career by fighting 50 all time greats in a row. The stars sometimes get a soft touch. Sometimes people get hyped. Sometimes fights dont get made. People get robbed. It’s going to happen whether it’s showtime, hbo, espn, dazn, fox, PBS kids, wherever.
But basically...I’d really like to know too, man.Comment
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With a straight face tell me why he’s not undisputed and who is better than him and how they’ve proven it. There will always be a challenger/mandatory.
And I’d love for the guy to fight the best fighter every single time out but I know better. It’s not going to happen. Canelo isn’t being built up, whenever he fights it’s already meaningful in the sport. He’s bringing his end of the deal to the party and unfortunately, not everyone has the same to match or add to.
Like most us jaded fans, we still tend to misinterpet IMPORTANT/interesting fights as big ones. Take Cotto vs Canelo as an example. No one outside of massivee Cotto fans and Canelo haters thought Cotto would win that fight. But nobody can carry a fight alone. You need two names and unfortunately, there isnt anyone worth a damn outside of two guys who will get people to raise eyebrows. Outside of us, How many people are going to pay for Andrade vs Canelo? He has a better name than Fielding, but in the grand scheme of things, it might as well be the same in comparison to the Canelo’s and AJs of the sport. What’s the difference between fielding who is watched by 2000 people and Andrade who’s watched by 50k when the numbers you’re trying to get to are a mil plus or in the upper hundreds of thousands?
Whether you or I like it or not, this has been the trend in boxing pretty much ever. Fights will always be built, haters will always find a new person to cling to to beat the star, etc etc. so long as Canelo keeps winning, people will find someone else that he is ducking (to lesser extents guys like Loma and Bud and these guys feel it in lower overall numbers) in the same it went for Floyd, same went for Pac, same went for Oscar, and on and on.
He’s going to do meaningful fights, but I’m not holdng my breath on it being every time out because it’s basically the same s hit numbers wise or very near, to give him a fight they KNOW he’ll win instead of a risking losing an established money maker.
You dont want Rigondeaux, Hopkins, or to a lesser extent Andre Ward.
You want Oscar, Pac, Floyd, Canelo. You want the guy bringing in the money to stay ontop as long os possible if youve got a business to run.
You want the arguable #1 pfp guy in the world sho’s 28 AND already the established biggest draw in the sport to win. What does oscar gain from risking him losing in the middle of a brutal gauntlet of tough training camps and coming in injured against the wrong guy? What does DAZN get? Andrade beat Canelo. Now what? Andrade wont be the star Canelo is ever. In this sport you know its not enough to JUST be good.Comment
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No one is paying 360 mil for another to come in and beat him and ride off with Haymon or someone else.Comment
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I don't know about that one. Plenty of folks are simply just fine with Showtime, regular cable TV, POV, and YouTube. There have been multiple posters who have stated they had DAZN but dropped it due to the lack of content. Me personally I think it's a bit oversold and I will personally just find a bar to watch the big fights.
But youre just fine with going to a bar to watch the big fights and it kind of proves my point. You’re fine with missing some and will go out somewhere else to a bar to spend some moneu on a few drinks instead of 10 bucks for the month.
I had HBO for boxing first and foremost, the other content was icing. Showtime is the same. I dont want them outside of boxing or GOT or something like that because netflix exists.
It’s all in the mindset and the way we view things. What content do you get buying a ppv? Pay 70 bucks for ONE fight, no shows, nothing. One card. One time.
How does that make sense in comparison to paying 10 bucks and getting way more out of if? It’s all in the way we view it.
For example, you’ll buy two beers just to watch a fight. You’re going to spend more to go to that bar than it woukd have cost you to have DAZN or Espn+ or Showtime to begin with. But thats only if you look at it from a certain point of view.Comment
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DAZN has to. No one watched the fight. The 5 millions downloads is BS. DAZN bought downloads, like businesses buy facebook likes.
Only 88k watched the Canelo fight.Comment
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I didn't read your entire manuscript. Sorry. Undisputed means without dispute. How can a fighter be Undisputed champion when the last fight for which he won the belt is under dispute from thousands of fans who felt that GGG won the fight. Further there are two other Champions out there in which there is a dispute over whether or not Alvarez can defeat them.
“Can’t be dIsPuTeD cuz He hAs a MaNdAtOrY and cHaLlEnGer lololol”
You dont have to like it but Canelo is undoubtedly the best MW until someone gets in there and beats him the way he got the W against GGG. You dont have to like it. Thats the way it works, sorry.
Thurman is also the best WW until someone beats him. Is there someone better? Maybe. But they havent proven it.
There’s other belts in the division held be weaker champions? Welcome to modern boxing. Canelo vs Fielding serves as your example. But hey, Fielding was debatably the best 68er by that logic. Had that trinketLast edited by NearHypnos; 12-19-2018, 09:31 AM.Comment
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Last I heard, the judges gave the fight to Canelo. Not up to debate. Beating Centeno or whoever Andrade just beat doesnt put you in the conversation of even the top 3 MW. Be real with yourself please.
“Can’t be dIsPuTeD cuz He hAs a MaNdAtOrY and cHaLlEnGer lololol”
You dont have to like it but Canelo is undoubtedly the best MW until someone gets in there and beats him the way he got the W against GGG. You dont have to like it. Thats the way it works, sorry.
Thurman is also the best WW until someone beats him. Is there someone better? Maybe. But they havent proven it.
There’s other belts in the division held be weaker champions? Welcome to modern boxing. Canelo vs Fielding serves as your example. But hey, Fielding was debatably the best 68er by that logic. Had that trinketComment
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