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  • Ake-Dawg
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    #81
    Originally posted by NearHypnos
    But youre just fine with going to a bar to watch the big fights and it kind of proves my point. You’re fine with missing some and will go out somewhere else to a bar to spend some moneu on a few drinks instead of 10 bucks for the month.

    I had HBO for boxing first and foremost, the other content was icing. Showtime is the same. I dont want them outside of boxing or GOT or something like that because netflix exists.

    It’s all in the mindset and the way we view things. What content do you get buying a ppv? Pay 70 bucks for ONE fight, no shows, nothing. One card. One time.


    How does that make sense in comparison to paying 10 bucks and getting way more out of if? It’s all in the way we view it.

    For example, you’ll buy two beers just to watch a fight. You’re going to spend more to go to that bar than it woukd have cost you to have DAZN or Espn+ or Showtime to begin with. But thats only if you look at it from a certain point of view.
    I see the trend. You want your opinion and perspective of DAZN to be the prevailing opinion. It's not. Some people just don't find value in DAZN right now because their fights aren't worth paying to see live. Why? The outcome isn't in question.

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    • NearHypnos
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      #82
      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
      I see the trend. You want your opinion and perspective of DAZN to be the prevailing opinion. It's not. Some people just don't find value in DAZN right now because their fights aren't worth paying to see live. Why? The outcome isn't in question.
      That why I’ve said it’s a matter of perspective. Logically speaking, sure, it makes sense by the numbers. But it’s perceived value. Whether right or wrong or irrational or unrealistic, everyone sees it different. I find the value in it by default. Oh, I’d be willing to pay 80 bucks to watch floyd fight berto, why wouldnt I subscribe to have access to watching bellator and aj/canelo for 10 bucks?

      I work, I’m not lazy, I know how apps work, and I like boxing, and I cant go to the bar to watch the next BJS or Andrade fight. Value for me.

      If a McDonalds meal is of more value than a subscription to you... Awesome for you. It’s not a DAZN thing at all, it’s the example. Might as well be Netflix, Hulu, Etc.

      It’s a new platform, not everyone is going to like it. not everyone will even get to the point of even knowing if they like it or not.

      Was this ever somehow up to debate? I dont get it.

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      • Ake-Dawg
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        #83
        Originally posted by NearHypnos
        That why I’ve said it’s a matter of perspective. Logically speaking, sure, it makes sense by the numbers. But it’s perceived value. Whether right or wrong or irrational or unrealistic, everyone sees it different. I find the value in it by default. Oh, I’d be willing to pay 80 bucks to watch floyd fight berto, why wouldnt I subscribe to have access to watching bellator and aj/canelo for 10 bucks?

        I work, I’m not lazy, I know how apps work, and I like boxing, and I cant go to the bar to watch the next BJS or Andrade fight. Value for me.

        If a McDonalds meal is of more value than a subscription to you... Awesome for you. It’s not a DAZN thing at all, it’s the example. Might as well be Netflix, Hulu, Etc.

        It’s a new platform, not everyone is going to like it. not everyone will even get to the point of even knowing if they like it or not.

        Was this ever somehow up to debate? I dont get it.
        I'm not the one who said that the only people who dont have DAZN are poor or Mayweather fans.

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        • NearHypnos
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          #84
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
          I'm not the one who said that the only people who dont have DAZN are poor or Mayweather fans.
          It’s an exaggeration, man. Something of a joke even. Do I really have to say it? You don’t take everything you read at face value do you? We’re shooting the s hit here. Relax.

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            #85
            Originally posted by NearHypnos
            It’s an exaggeration, man. Something of a joke even. Do I really have to say it? You don’t take everything you read at face value do you? We’re shooting the s hit here. Relax.
            I think I lost the joke in all those words! Lol

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            • NearHypnos
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              #86
              Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
              I think I lost the joke in all those words! Lol
              True story.

              I lose my own point in all the words half the time. I’ll start s hit in one mood with a certain frame of mind and point and forget to finish the post and get back to my phone a different man and finish up a response that took me multiple sittings to actually do lmao. Come back an hour later and see the browser with the response and now Ive got new s hit to say. ��

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                #87
                Originally posted by j.razor
                Triple L should be AFTER Jermall, Jacobs AND Andrade.
                you dummy ggg is a bigger draw than all three of these fools combined. He'll get the fight before they do. dazn will make it happen.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by DaBeastO
                  you dummy ggg is a bigger draw than all three of these fools combined. He'll get the fight before they do. dazn will make it happen.
                  Charlo will be lucky to get Jacobs with the way the landscape is and the networks.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by NearHypnos
                    With a straight face tell me why he’s not undisputed and who is better than him and how they’ve proven it. There will always be a challenger/mandatory.

                    And I’d love for the guy to fight the best fighter every single time out but I know better. It’s not going to happen. Canelo isn’t being built up, whenever he fights it’s already meaningful in the sport. He’s bringing his end of the deal to the party and unfortunately, not everyone has the same to match or add to.

                    Like most us jaded fans, we still tend to misinterpet IMPORTANT/interesting fights as big ones. Take Cotto vs Canelo as an example. No one outside of massivee Cotto fans and Canelo haters thought Cotto would win that fight. But nobody can carry a fight alone. You need two names and unfortunately, there isnt anyone worth a damn outside of two guys who will get people to raise eyebrows. Outside of us, How many people are going to pay for Andrade vs Canelo? He has a better name than Fielding, but in the grand scheme of things, it might as well be the same in comparison to the Canelo’s and AJs of the sport. What’s the difference between fielding who is watched by 2000 people and Andrade who’s watched by 50k when the numbers you’re trying to get to are a mil plus or in the upper hundreds of thousands?


                    Whether you or I like it or not, this has been the trend in boxing pretty much ever. Fights will always be built, haters will always find a new person to cling to to beat the star, etc etc. so long as Canelo keeps winning, people will find someone else that he is ducking (to lesser extents guys like Loma and Bud and these guys feel it in lower overall numbers) in the same it went for Floyd, same went for Pac, same went for Oscar, and on and on.

                    He’s going to do meaningful fights, but I’m not holdng my breath on it being every time out because it’s basically the same s hit numbers wise or very near, to give him a fight they KNOW he’ll win instead of a risking losing an established money maker.

                    You dont want Rigondeaux, Hopkins, or to a lesser extent Andre Ward.

                    You want Oscar, Pac, Floyd, Canelo. You want the guy bringing in the money to stay ontop as long os possible if youve got a business to run.

                    You want the arguable #1 pfp guy in the world sho’s 28 AND already the established biggest draw in the sport to win. What does oscar gain from risking him losing in the middle of a brutal gauntlet of tough training camps and coming in injured against the wrong guy? What does DAZN get? Andrade beat Canelo. Now what? Andrade wont be the star Canelo is ever. In this sport you know its not enough to JUST be good.
                    it's a sport. I don't give a **** if the ******* suits make money I want the best fighting the best EVERY TIME OUT! that's what boxing fans deserve if I don't get that I won't support any platform. I'm tired of five showcase fights in a row and 1 meaningful fight. If clenelo loses that oscar's problem. if boxing fans boycotted dazn we wouldn't get bull**** like felding or lemeiux. I will never buy dazn it's clear they aren't interested in competitive fights.

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                    • NearHypnos
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by DaBeastO
                      it's a sport. I don't give a **** if the ******* suits make money I want the best fighting the best EVERY TIME OUT! that's what boxing fans deserve if I don't get that I won't support any platform. I'm tired of five showcase fights in a row and 1 meaningful fight. If clenelo loses that oscar's problem. if boxing fans boycotted dazn we wouldn't get bull**** like felding or lemeiux. I will never buy dazn it's clear they aren't interested in competitive fights.
                      But you’ll watch Bud fight no hopers? Charlo fight Centeno/Korobov? Spence fight Peterson? Lomachenko fight Pedraza over Mikey? BjS vs everyone? Floyd vs Berto? Pacquiao vs old mosley? Etc rtc etc

                      You must watch zero boxing since you feel so strongly about mismatches. The guy has the best win in boxing coming off fighting him twice and he gets one soft touch and your blood pressure rises.


                      But seriously, if thats how you feel I hope you’re consistant.

                      But we all know that’s not true. :P

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