Comments Thread For: Wilder: Joshua Skipped Fury Fight To Avoid 'Hard Questions'

[davefromvancouv]

That is not Wilder's true worth. When the Fury fights are done, he's going back to peanuts. People only paid to watch Fury, no one else. But if you want to think otherwise, good luck getting people to pay $75 for the likes of Brezeale.

The same can be said for Joshua. Good luck splitting $100 million with anyone other than Wilder and Fury. Their rematch will pull similar numbers to Joshua-Klitschko, the largest purse Joshua has ever made. May even beat that.
So the reality is, Wilder and Fury are equal to Joshua in terms of interest, maybe even more so because they fought each other and it was a compelling and dramatic fight. And they won't be anybody's work boy. So after the rematch, Joshua will not be able to get either of them for anything less than 50/50.

[EasternEuroFan]

So Lennox Lewis, Floyd Mayweather, Naseem Hamed, Oscar De la Hoye etc etc gave a percentage to weak B sides on account of them having a title or something? And you think i'm ****** and don't know boxing? You really do think this nobody Wilder is a player in the game don't you? Haha, He's a 2 bit nobody. You don't pay nobodies like him huge money, it doesn't make any sense. Big stars in the past have never come close to giving a percentage to weak B sides. It's only been recent with Joshua to try and get these fools into the ring. He has the bend over backwards just to get the fights. But you want to point to him being the problem? Man, get the **** out of here. This is insane.

They did. Floyd even used to give rights to South American TV to fighters like Maidana.

Hearn offered nothing except a flat fee to own Wilder for a fight, which isn't gonna slide.

Isn't that the same reason that AJ knocked back the $50m, he didn't want them to own him for a fight and not give him %?

The difference is that AJ asked for $50m and then refused it when they called his bluff. Wilder never asked for $15m. He just wanted to negotiate a proper %. AJ's $50m was far more than he had ever earned too..

So you're calling out Wilder for refusing a flat fee he didn't ask for, but saying nothing about AJ refusing a figure that he did ask for lol. You couldn't make it up haha. You're so confused by Hearn's lies that you tie yourself in knots.

[EasternEuroFan]

That is not the poll I voted in. This is a different poll. And i'm sure a lot of people voted AFTER the fight to try and look smart. Nowhere near this many people had faith in Fury winning.

Hearn has offered a %. What else should AJ do to get the Wilder fight? You haven't answered.

Nope, the polls get closed near fight time. That's the official forum thread. I actually mentioned that particular poll because i remembered that the votes were pretty even. I wasn't just making it up.

Well if Hearn has offered a % this time, then good, we can see if gets made. But in the past Hearn didn't want the fight, that's for sure, he made that clear with his flat fee nonsense, trying to own Wilder for a fight with no rights. No different to the $50m that AJ refused for the same reasons, except that AJ was the one that asked for it, then refused, as i said before.

[Sid-Knee]

They did. Floyd even used to give rights to South American TV to fighters like Maidana.

Hearn offered nothing except a flat fee to own Wilder for a fight, which isn't gonna slide.

Isn't that the same reason that AJ knocked back the $50m, he didn't want them to own him for a fight and not give him %?

The difference is that AJ asked for $50m and then refused it when they called his bluff. Wilder never asked for $15m. He just wanted to negotiate a proper %. AJ's $50m was far more than he had ever earned too..

So you're calling out Wilder for refusing a flat fee he didn't ask for, but saying nothing about AJ refusing a figure that he did ask for lol. You couldn't make it up haha. You're so confused by Hearn's lies that you tie yourself in knots.

Why would Floyd care about South American TV? Floyd gave most a flat fee and took the PPV money for himself. So save yourself from giving me this bull****. If South American TV had some real money from it, Floyd wouldn't have given ****. But he didn't care about peanuts.

The reason AJ turned down the 50 Mill was due to it being in the states when he said the fight had to be in the UK. Then we found out about what this 50 Mill entailed and saw it for the bull**** it really was.

I don't need to listen to Hearn for anything. I make my own mind up.

What have you got to say about the % offer from Hearn?

[Sid-Knee]

Nope, the polls get closed near fight time. That's the official forum thread. I actually mentioned that particular poll because i remembered that the votes were pretty even. I wasn't just making it up.

Well if Hearn has offered a % this time, then good, we can see if gets made. But in the past Hearn didn't want the fight, that's for sure, he made that clear with his flat fee nonsense, trying to own Wilder for a fight with no rights. No different to the $50m that AJ refused for the same reasons, except that AJ was the one that asked for it, then refused, as i said before.

Lets see if the fight gets made? Are you serious? Wilder isn't going to fight. Are you not listening to the madness he's coming out with? He quite clearly doesn't want the fight. But he does want to convince as many people as he can that he does. The man is a loon. He can't stop contradicting himself all the time. But you continue defending him. It seems you like all the nonsense he's coming out with.

[Sid-Knee]

The same can be said for Joshua. Good luck splitting $100 million with anyone other than Wilder and Fury. Their rematch will pull similar numbers to Joshua-Klitschko, the largest purse Joshua has ever made. May even beat that.
So the reality is, Wilder and Fury are equal to Joshua in terms of interest, maybe even more so because they fought each other and it was a compelling and dramatic fight. And they won't be anybody's work boy. So after the rematch, Joshua will not be able to get either of them for anything less than 50/50.

No, they aren't equal to Joshua. Why do you think they make nothing for their fights outside of fighting each other? Why else do they never sell all of their tickets? There's logical reasons for that. They either make more money fighting Joshua than they've ever made by being reasonable, or they can go back to peanuts in front of half empty arenas getting booed.

AJ on the other hand will continue making 25 Mill+ for his fights.

[EasternEuroFan]

Why would Floyd care about South American TV? Floyd gave most a flat fee and took the PPV money for himself. So save yourself from giving me this bull****. If South American TV had some real money from it, Floyd wouldn't have given ****. But he didn't care about peanuts.

The reason AJ turned down the 50 Mill was due to it being in the states when he said the fight had to be in the UK. Then we found out about what this 50 Mill entailed and saw it for the bull**** it really was.

I don't need to listen to Hearn for anything. I make my own mind up.

What have you got to say about the % offer from Hearn?

Floyd used to give USA PPV splits to fighters and give them TV rights in their home country if they weren't from USA. Maidana, Ortiz, Mosley, Guerrero, Berto etc.all got a split of the USA PPV. it might've been a very small %, but it was still a %. He didn't just give a flat fee and nothing else. They used to get a guarantee fee and then a small % of PPV. You're making yourself sound clueless

Here's a Forbes article regarding Floyd v Maidana, clearly stating their guaranteed purses and that both fighters will earn from PPV sales. As i say, i provide facts, you regurgitate nonsense you heard others say:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2014/09/13/mayweather-career-earnings-top-400-million-with-maidana-fight/#3556b4da61fc

I already mentioned the % offer in another reply.

As i said, the same bull**** that was in the $50m offer is the same as the $15m offer. The difference being AJ asked for the $50m, Wilder didn't ask for his. "Give me $50m and i'll sign tomorrow"..gets offered $50m, goes missing and makes Hearn clear it up. lol

[Sid-Knee]

Floyd used to give USA PPV splits to fighters and give them TV rights in their home country if they weren't from USA. Maidana, Ortiz, Mosley, Guerrero, Berto etc.all got a split of the USA PPV. it might've been a very small %, but it was still a %. He didn't just give a flat fee and nothing else. They used to get a guarantee fee and then a small % of PPV. You're making yourself sound clueless

Here's a Forbes article regarding Floyd v Maidana, clearly stating their guaranteed purses and that both fighters will earn from PPV sales. As i say, i provide facts, you regurgitate nonsense you heard others say:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2014/09/13/mayweather-career-earnings-top-400-million-with-maidana-fight/#3556b4da61fc

I already mentioned the % offer in another reply.

As i said, the same bull**** that was in the $50m offer is the same as the $15m offer. The difference being AJ asked for the $50m, Wilder didn't ask for his. "Give me $50m and i'll sign tomorrow"..gets offered $50m, goes missing and makes Hearn clear it up. lol

What like 2%? Oh right. Should AJ just offer 2% then and you'll agree with the offer? Come on. That is not a proper percentage and you know it.

You also didn't answer what I asked about Ortiz. You said AJ just fights old men, yet you want him to fight Ortiz? Care to explain?

[BeLikeWater]

The biggest star in the division who sells out stadiums while your b1tch can't even sell out an arena against the second biggest name in the division, is done?

Yeah, that's what AJ's pay cheques are saying as well. Deluded fantasist. Now go back to your village, they're missing their idiot.

I'm sure people will continue to watch him throw weebos around the ring so exciting for everyone..

[Phenom]

AJ was doing his apology tour he lost credibility so makes since to do some damage control and show up to the Canelo fight