AJ wanting Wilder instead of Fury is a chithouse move.

[_Rexy_]

Didn’t they offer wilder a flat fee of 15 million and didn’t he make 14 million from the fury fight? Offer doesn’t seem that terrible tbh.

Also aj didn’t Win vacant titles (wba aside) he won them from someone who won a vacant title. Same way wilder did.

I have no idea what Wilder made from the Fury fight. I’m not his accountant.

My bad on the vacant belts. In my head I always think he got WBA and IBF vacant. Likely because the IBF was basically vacant lol

[W1LL]

Fury never defended them and could well have lost them in a rematch with Wlad diminishing his claim to them further.

AJ came in and took over very fast, faster than most HW champs have ever done beating the same guy Fury did (better or worse is a whole other can of worms) and taking the fight's to ensure was the new top guy . He wasn't employed by Fury to keep the seat warm he forced his way into it so Fury can't expect be no.1 on return. IMO AJ's done enough to cement himself as a No.1 that can't be contested without fighting him.

If Fury has the goods and fights him, he'll beat him and then be No.1 . AJ has said Fury can get it in April if he wants and that he knocks out both guys so he aint afraid.

Fury easily defeated the longest reigning, unified Heavyweight champion of recent times, in his own hometown. He then had to vacate all but the Lineal.

- Martin won the vacant IBF
- Parker won the vacant WBO
- AJ beat paper champion Martin
- AJ won the vacant IBO and WBA Super
- AJ beat paper champion Parker

[The3]

The belt is on Wilder not Fury

[W1LL]

Boxing is never gonna move out of the alphabet darkness when people are knowingly subscribing to the paper titles when it's clear they are meaningless. Fury never lost the four belts in the ring, and just whooped the fifth beltholder. "Yea but... technicalities doe."

[_Rexy_]

Boxing is never gonna move out of the alphabet darkness when people are knowingly subscribing to the paper titles when it's clear they are meaningless. Fury never lost the four belts in the ring, and just whooped the fifth beltholder. "Yea but... technicalities doe."

You’re just as guilty when you say “fifth” beltholder

[W1LL]

You’re just as guilty when you say “fifth” beltholder

That's the whole point, lol. There's people who get off on there being multiple paper champions.

[SeGoodland]

Tyson Fury was out of the ring for a few years, for several reasons. He could still be classed as in the prime of his boxing life. Lennox Lewis was an old man and had clearly been retired five years before Wladimir Klitschko won the vacant Lineal title. What AJ did is win a round-robin to collect all of Tyson Fury's vacated belts. He's never, ever beat an established champion.

So what you are declaring is, you must fight an established Champion in order to be considered a real Champion? Oh, good job that Wilder fought that well established former-WBC Champion Bermane Stiverne

Oh, good job that Tyson Fury was a long established Champion as well, with all of those epic defences he's had! Not to mention never ever having an issue with PED's and being overweight and always being active and in his prime. But its not retirement because he didn't announce it officially.

You are just making up rules to suit your own argument.

[W1LL]

So what you are declaring is, you must fight an established Champion in order to be considered a real Champion? Oh, good job that Wilder fought that well established former-WBC Champion Bermane Stiverne

Oh, good job that Tyson Fury was a long established Champion as well, with all of those epic defences he's had! Not to mention never ever having an issue with PED's and being overweight and always being active and in his prime. But its not retirement because he didn't announce it officially.

You are just making up rules to suit your own argument.

Fact is, Fury is the only one of the currect crop to have beaten an established, long-reigning champion. Can't deny that. Not only that but, he then comes back after 3 years out and beats the current longest-reigning champion all over again, only to be robbed of his victory!

[Split Decision]

aj vs wilder is a much better fight

think most would prefer it other than tyson fans or wilder fans that dont want him to lose

[_Rexy_]

aj vs wilder is a much better fight

think most would prefer it other than tyson fans or wilder fans that dont want him to lose

So AJ vs Wilder is a better fight who everyone would prefer other than Fury fans and Wilder fans...so only Joshua fans?