Comments Thread For: Gilberto Ramirez: I'll Go To 175, I'm Ready To Challenge Gvozdyk

[Madison Boxing]

Let me guess, zurdo fights another bum

[TheCell8]

That's not a bad fight. What else has he got atm?

[Citizen Koba]

Zurdo should unify at 168

*try to*

Mundo vs Zurdo would be a fight I'd love to see... it's whether Hearn and Arum can agree on platform I think.

Uzcategui and Benavidez (if he can keep his tests clean) hold the other two pieces and any match between the 4 of these guys promises to be a good fight.

All four of them are big, big guys for 168 though and will eventually end up at 175, Mundo and Zurdo within a coupla years I'd imagine.

[Andre_parker1]

that's a good in-house top rank fight..gvozdyk by ko in 6

[kidbazooka]

Gvozdk is stiff and average as they come but of course because he’s Eastern European he’s all of a sudden a “beast” lol

Zurdo beats him every which way.

[Raimondo]

He also wants to fight Usyk but Dirrell vs Yildirim winner is the way! LOL

[minemax]

Ramirez is taller than Gvozdyk and even has reach advantage on Gvozdyk.
And I'm not even talking about Bivol.

[Clegg]

No chance Zurdo would take that fight, just more empty talk.

[chrisJS]

Gvozdk is stiff and average as they come but of course because he’s Eastern European he’s all of a sudden a “beast” lol

Zurdo beats him every which way.

You are being racist again and this type of thing cost you a $1000 bet against me and a loser leaves town bet both of which you didn’t honor FYI.

Gvozdyk kills Zurdo. I’ll bet you 10k and put money in escrow just front me up the 1k you owe me. Calling you out you *****phile f@gg0t

[Boxing Logic]

Gvozdk is stiff and average as they come but of course because he’s Eastern European he’s all of a sudden a “beast” lol

Zurdo beats him every which way.

Only man to stop Chilemba. Stopped Yunieski coming off the Pascal win. Just stopped Stevenson and outdid Badou Jack's performance, someone who gets a lot of hype in America. No one is portraying Gvozdyk like he's the next GGG or anything. I dont get the outrage about eastern euro hype. The only ones to get big hype were GGG, Loma, Usyk, and Kovalev, and didnt they all deliver? GGG even past his prime fought even at worst with prime Canelo. Kovalev even past his prime fought even at worst with prime Andre Ward in their first fight, before getting stopped on low blows in the rematch. Usyk just unified cruiserweight, and Lomachenko what can I even say about him it's incredible to watch him.

So what is the issue? When say Badou Jack gets hyped up, no one says "you did this with Floyd, you did this with Crawford, every American gets hype, that's why Badou is getting it too." No one says that. Just like you have elite American fighters, and good American fighters, and ones in between, you have elite fighters from eastern europe, good ones, and ones in between.

I mean, did you see guys going around crazy over Andrej Fonfara or Victor Postol, even when they were undefeated? Of course not because they never looked elite. Even Dereyvanchenko didn't get much hype and he is a very good fighter, almost beat DJ as you saw yet DJ had a lot more hype and attention around him in America than a basically equal fighter, Dereyvanchenko, had, even before DJ fought GGG or even Quillin. That doesn't exactly fit your narrative either. Even the Klitschkos had very little hype and they were the kings of boxing. But because the fanbase you are criticizing actually has such HIGH standards, not low standards as you made it sound, they never hyped the Klitschkos despite how good they were because like Andre Ward they could be very boring, although not as bad as Ward. Yet somehow saying that about the Klitschkos is considered an honest appraisal of boxing, but saying that about Ward makes you a racist or a hater. And somehow the pro-black boxing fanbase in America rallied around Ward despite him being dirty and boring, while the fanbase you're talking about did not rally around the Klitschkos, who were better and less dirty and more entertaining than Ward. So that would suggest you have it backwards. The fanbase you are referring to is not the racial one, but rather the pro-black segment of boxing fans in America are.

Do some eastern euros generate excitement? Of course. Unlike Postol, Fonfara, and even Dereyvanchenko or the Klitschkos, GGG, Loma, Usyk, and to a slightly lesser extent Kovalev, all looked the elite of the elite coming up, and all have extremely fan friendly styles, and all were willing to give fans the fights they wanted to see which was NICE FOR A CHANGE and helped them make a lot of fans, so that's why they got hype from people with a good eye for boxing, and in each and every case, those people were proven Nostradamuses because all four of them proved to be top 5 P4P fighters in their primes, really all top 3 in their primes actually if you look back at most people's lists, including the "official" lists (not that that should make you trust them more, if anything it should make you trust them less).