Comments Thread For: Hearn: If Wilder Doesn't Want Joshua - Nothing We Can Do

[Toffee]

But he did offer both Joshua and fury the fight. Fury accepted and Joshua refused 50 million

No-one has ever fought a fight based on an Instagram contract. You need an actual contract.

They negotiated and failed to reach an agreement. That's a fact. One of very few known facts in this matter.

The dedication to one side or the other's Instagram posturing on here is incredible. It's all huff and puff. You can choose to be smarter than that.

It takes two to tango.

[Toffee]

Funny how Hearn has reserved the location of the venue without negotiations....so much BS from this guy. Fight another deserving HW like Ortiz while you wait your turn. They turned down the fight multiple times already. First it was money, then it was the dates, then it was a deadline for a signed contract now that he sees Wilder and Fury getting their shine he wants in, lol.

You don't think an unsigned contract is a good reason for not having the fight?

And on booking Wembley, it was a two fight deal signed ahead of the Povetkin fight.

[Noelanthony]

Funny how Hearn has reserved the location of the venue without negotiations....so much BS from this guy. Fight another deserving HW like Ortiz while you wait your turn. They turned down the fight multiple times already. First it was money, then it was the dates, then it was a deadline for a signed contract now that he sees Wilder and Fury getting their shine he wants in, lol.

You Wilder fans will find anything to complain about. So you are now annoyed that Hearn hassecured a venue without any negotiations even though he secured the venue from August?i can only apologise on behalf of a fellow Brit. Crazy people they are!

[Noelanthony]

Here you go champ.

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=794369

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/boxing/734019/Boxing-news-Anthony-Joshua-Deontay-Wilder-Wembley-heavyweight-Tyson-Fury

^$20m guarantee

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/oct/05/anthony-joshua-unlikely-to-fight-deontay-wilder-soon-concedes-eddie-hearn

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/deontay-wilder-offered-5050-split-13466847

^Eddie Hearn reveals 65-35 is fair.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUZE-vC8icA

So to summarize:

Wilder has a $20m minimum guarantee or 35%.

A 2 way rematch clause.

A date and a venue

That good enough for you? What mental gymnastics are you going to perform to pretend this isn't true?

The split may have even improved after the Fury fight, who knows.

Lol you will not be hearing from him again although he may rebuttal with 50 million

[fullers]

No-one has ever fought a fight based on an Instagram contract. You need an actual contract.

They negotiated and failed to reach an agreement. That's a fact. One of very few known facts in this matter.

The dedication to one side or the other's Instagram posturing on here is incredible. It's all huff and puff. You can choose to be smarter than that.

It takes two to tango.

Your right it takes two. Fury and wilder agreed to fight real quick. Joshua hasn't agreed to fight either. Speaks volumes

[fullers]

It’s about who you have fought and hw many belts you have. If justice was served Wilder would be belt less. The 2 people he fought I.e Ortiz and Fury he has been exposed. I have never in my life heard a boxer el of so many excuses for a draw. Tyson had Baby oil on is probably my favourite excuse.

If you forget your past you will never get to your destination. You can’t ignore his past. It’s his past why I don’t buy his alter ego.its a gimmick. Blaming saying he wants a body on his record on the Bronze bomber. It’s hilarious, but hey it’s cool if your into that sort of thing

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not a Joshua or wilder fan. I'm a boxing fan who wants to see the best fights. As a boxing fan it appears to me that two of the top three hw s agree to fight. Joshua won't agree to fight either of them. But he will fight takam, Parker, povetkin. There's a reason he and hearn won't agree to fight the other two even when they get the lion share of cash

[fullers]

No-one has ever fought a fight based on an Instagram contract. You need an actual contract.

They negotiated and failed to reach an agreement. That's a fact. One of very few known facts in this matter.

The dedication to one side or the other's Instagram posturing on here is incredible. It's all huff and puff. You can choose to be smarter than that.

It takes two to tango.

Is also fact that Barry hearn has been recorded on camera saying match rooms business plan is for selling out Wembley the most amount of times to the easiest opposition for max cash. If that's the business plan (rumours of Joshua whyte 2 or cruiserweight usyk as next fight at Wembley) they're doing it well to the detriment of boxing fans

[Noelanthony]

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not a Joshua or wilder fan. I'm a boxing fan who wants to see the best fights. As a boxing fan it appears to me that two of the top three hw s agree to fight. Joshua won't agree to fight either of them. But he will fight takam, Parker, povetkin. There's a reason he and hearn won't agree to fight the other two even when they get the lion share of cash

I don’t believe you are deliberately being obtuse but what makes you feel AJ does not want to face Wilder or Fury? Please let’s not pretend the majority of people thought Fury would be annihilated by Wilder but I was prepared to give him his strips even though I felt it was a easy touch.

After Joshua unified by beating Parker I was furious when he called out Fury and Wilder as my initial thoughts were simply Tyson is not ready. AJ thought Wilder would win that’s why he has been dismissive of Fury. I can’t be bothered to explain why he fought Takam because as a fan of boxing you should know. Listen it doesn’t help Joshua has a arrogant promoter and as fans we are not privy to everything just don’t be so dismissive because one side doesn’t endear you to them.

Personally I don’t doubt Wilder genuinely wanted the fight but his team were not as keen as he was. Again no point detailing my reasons but not wanting to meet is a good enough reason to suggest you are not interested in negotiating.Eddie is not innocent either and neither is Joshua but if you have heard all Wilders excuses about his performance this last week. He is a very good liar when called upon

[N/A]

A bit of a cop-out to say that that's what Hearn can do. There are a million things he can do to make the fight.

Then he shouldn't say there's nothing he can do.

There's plenty he can do. When you insist on only holding the fight in the country that makes the least money and only broadcast the fight on the service offering the least money, then you can't say you're truly trying to make the fight happen.