A Cold Hard Look At What Hearn Needs To Offer Wilder

[SkiPete]

Why would Hearn offer anything when they can make more money for Fury.

[boliodogs]

To the best of my memory Wilder flat turned down the offer to fight AJ in England for $15 million and said it was a pos bs offer. I doubt AJ will ever agree to give Wilder half. AJ is still the A side, the much bigger draw and the man with most of the belts. I doubt Wilder fights Fury in England and AJ won't fight Wilder in the USA. As long as AJ keeps winning he makes huge money even without ever fighting Wilder so he can fight Wilder on his terms or not at all.

[koolkc107]

Why did you put the May 4th date??
Canelo is fighting on that day in Vegas, he already has the T Mobile arena reserved for him..

The date isn't that important, and I chose it to troll folks.

But, we DO know that Canelo's fight won't be PPV.

I do agree tho, that May 4 is unlikely.

It'll be late May most likely, even June isn't out of the question.

[Curt Henning]

To the best of my memory Wilder flat turned down the offer to fight AJ in England for $15 million and said it was a pos bs offer. I doubt AJ will ever agree to give Wilder half. AJ is still the A side, the much bigger draw and the man with most of the belts. I doubt Wilder fights Fury in England and AJ won't fight Wilder in the USA. As long as AJ keeps winning he makes huge money even without ever fighting Wilder so he can fight Wilder on his terms or not at all.

your memory sucks

wilder agreed to do it...if it was this year and NEXT...yet hearn sent over a contract with no date....wilders team inquired and hearn said "oh its april 2019" which is not term wilder had said would be acceptable......but he did call it a bad offer...but your memory still blows

[koolkc107]

your memory sucks

wilder agreed to do it...if it was this year and NEXT...yet hearn sent over a contract with no date....wilders team inquired and hearn said "oh its april 2019" which is not term wilder had said would be acceptable......but he did call it a bad offer...but your memory still blows

The amnesia some of these AJ fans get is amazing...

[Biolink]

year.

Is American PPV taken into account with the Joshua fight? I feel like that fights so big they'll put it on American PPV anyways. Maybe just start the event earlier or later or whatver to accommodate American's.

[Tyistall]

One question, and I'm sure that I will not get a sensible answer but I'll put it out there anyway. If Wilder had four belts and AJ had one, would you idiots think that Wilder should give AJ 40 to 50%? If Wilder sold out soccer stadiums and was a PPV stars for years now, and AJ had 1 PPV that didn't even do that well, do you idiots still think Wilder should give AJ 40 to 50%? Also, if AJ was the one who was talking **** this entire time, and Wilder just carried on fighting 4 of the top 15 fighters in the world, do you think Wilder should still give AJ 40 to 50%?? Because I think if it all was reversed, Wilder wouldn't do any of that.

[koolkc107]

Is American PPV taken into account with the Joshua fight? I feel like that fights so big they'll put it on American PPV anyways. Maybe just start the event earlier or later or whatver to accommodate American's.

I didn't include PPV estimates from Britain in the Vegas estimate either.

I purposely left out the ppv estimates from the other country in both cases because of the time difference.

There is evidence to argue both pro and con for including it in both cases but for simplicity's sake I decided against. Hell, that's just giving folks more to argue about.

I will say this. It's more likely that Brits tune in at 7am on a Sunday morning to watch than it is Americans tune in at 3 in the afternoon on a Saturday. We've had Vegas ppvs post decent British numbers before...not so much the other way around.

[DaNeutral.]

So some tool has broke out his calculator, roughed up some sums and it turns out Deontay deserves 50-50. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, OK. That Fury fight was his chance and oppertunity to prove he deserves 50-50 with Joshua, that was Finkels plan and it back fired. They made a profit but they certainly didnt rake the money in. They tried to match Joshua numbers and it didnt work.

They tried to keep it to themselves but we all know what figures it did and how much they are getting paid and what it all amounts to is NOT 50-50 with Anthony Joshua and forget doing that fight in America. They only want it in America so they can cheat, even Finkel knows it makes more money in the UK.

[Ray*]

Did Wilder even make 10m dollars from the Fury fight? I know his guarantee was 4m dollars, and let's say he made another 5m from sponsors, PPV and tickets. Did he even make 10M? If not then no one should be calling 12.5m/15m guarantee offers plus a chance at undisputed champ "Low-ball" offers.