I agree with the sentiment that Canelo will not be a 3 division champion if he beats Fielding, BUT it's hilarious how all of the wanna be Eastern-Euro dorks that are pushing that agenda kept claiming and still claim that Golovkin tied Hopkins record of 160 pound title defenses at 20 when a bunch of them only had a WBA Regular title on the line, just like the bogus title Canelo is fighting for.
Golovkin did NOT tie Hopkins and Canelo will NOT be a 3 division champion if he beats Fielding.
Canelo will eventually become a legit 3 division champion though. 168 isn't that great and the top dogs there will be moving up to 175 soon.
Why drag GGG into a Canelo thread? GGG defeated 20 guys with a world title on the line even if it wasn't for the full title. Canelo is fighting a world champion even if everybody knows the real 168 pound champion is Smith who KOed Fielding in the 1st round. Don't blame Canelo and GGG for the alphabet groups having two or three so called world champions in each weight class.
we don't, we blame idiot casual fans for recognizing that rubbish
The WBA world title is meaningless and we should not recognize it. Having two world titles in one weight class from the same org delegitimizes it.
The world champ of an org is whoever is holding the highest recognition by that org. As such, I am only OK with recognizing the world champ when there is no super champ. Otherwise it becomes a runner-up title which discounts it's intended meaning.
The fact that it has the word "world" in it does not change the reality that Canelo will not have the organization's highest recognition at this weight class, which belongs to Callum Smith. Smith is the WBA's champ and Fielding is holding on to a paper title that means nothing to serious fans.
I agree with the sentiment that Canelo will not be a 3 division champion if he beats Fielding, BUT it's hilarious how all of the wanna be Eastern-Euro dorks that are pushing that agenda kept claiming and still claim that Golovkin tied Hopkins record of 160 pound title defenses at 20 when a bunch of them only had a WBA Regular title on the line, just like the bogus title Canelo is fighting for.
Golovkin did NOT tie Hopkins and Canelo will NOT be a 3 division champion if he beats Fielding.
Canelo will eventually become a legit 3 division champion though. 168 isn't that great and the top dogs there will be moving up to 175 soon.
Can't really argue with the principle but it's amusing the way that Golovkin fans are portrayed as some kind of monolithic entity that swallowed all propaganda, thought that his **** fights were great, and sold him as some kind of defense record holder and the greatest MW in history.
That kind of narrative was always false and the vast majority of Golovkin fans were critical of many of his fights (whilst allowing that there were legitimate reasons why he didn't get better opposition), were sceptical of the 'defense record' (whilst allowing that Golovkin was jobbed out of a shot a the 'real title' years earlier), and only ever claimed he was the best current MW not some unbeatable ATG.
But yeah. Back to the topic at hand, I share your opinion. Golovkin (by my count) had 15 legitimate defenses when he was either sole WBA World champion or Super champion. It's a considerable achievement, but still a ways off the record - whatever that matters. Canelo won't be a 3 division champ this weekend by my reckoning, but you're likely right that he'll get there in the end.
Last edited by Citizen Koba; 12-14-2018, 06:52 AM.
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