Canelo will NOT be a 3 division champ if he beats Fielding.

[El Gitano]

I agree with the sentiment that Canelo will not be a 3 division champion if he beats Fielding, BUT it's hilarious how all of the wanna be Eastern-Euro dorks that are pushing that agenda kept claiming and still claim that Golovkin tied Hopkins record of 160 pound title defenses at 20 when a bunch of them only had a WBA Regular title on the line, just like the bogus title Canelo is fighting for.

Golovkin did NOT tie Hopkins and Canelo will NOT be a 3 division champion if he beats Fielding.

Canelo will eventually become a legit 3 division champion though. 168 isn't that great and the top dogs there will be moving up to 175 soon.

Is he a 3 division titlest then?

[El Gitano]

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says the guy who recognizes - therefore supports - their regular/interim rubbish

You're lying. I've repeatedly said I don't recognize any WBA title. I never recognized the WBO as a legitimate world title and I ceased recognizing the WBA 18 years ago when they added the super title.

I stopped recognizing the IBF after the bribery scandal, but began recognizing the IBF again after the regime change and new rules as clearly the IBF is the most fair organization now.

When people complain about all of the world titles, that is their fault for recognizing so many. I only recognize two, the WBC and IBF.

..... still waiting for you to provide a link where the networks/managers lament the loss of the WBA rubbish titles..... either from Mendoza or from a manager???

I already posted the links to Mendoza's tweets complaining about market forces delaying the elimination of the super titles.

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those guys are eligible for the SAME title, they compete on the SAME landscape

So do NBA and NFL players. But those leagues still have division champions, conference champions and world champions.

The WBA decided 18 years ago to create a new title, the super championship. It's not a world championship, it's a super championship. Because the WBA world championship was no longer the WBA's top championship, I stopped recognizing the WBA world championship as a legitimate world title. I don't recognize the super title as a world title either as even the WBA doesn't say it's a world title.

[aboutfkntime]

Here are the most recent WBA ratings:

http://www.wbaboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/rankings/2018-november.pdf

The word "super" appears in the document 38 times.

The word "world" appears in the document 18 times.

The word "regular" doesn't appear anywhere in the document.

The WBA recognises the title holders from the WBC, WBO, and IBF organisations. The WBA refers to a champion who holds two or more of these titles in the same weight class as a "Super Champion", "Unified Champion", or "Undisputed Champion". This applies even if the WBA title is not one of the titles held by the "Undisputed Champion."[7][8] In September 2008 for example, Nate Campbell was recognized as the WBA's "Undisputed Champion" at lightweight due to holding the WBO and IBF titles as well, while the WBA's "Regular" champion was Yusuke Kobori.[9]

If a fighter with multiple titles also holds the WBA's title, the fighter is promoted to "Super Champion" and the WBA title—which is then referred to as the "Regular" title—becomes vacant for competition by other WBA-ranked boxers. As a result, the WBA's official list of champions will often show a "WBA Super World Champion" and a "WBA World Champion" for the same weight class, instead of simply "WBA Champion."[10] The WBA has even been known to recognize three different fighters as one form of champion or another in the same weight class ("Super", "Regular", and "interim champion"), and there have been occasions where two different WBA "World" champions have defended their own versions of the same title, in the same weight class, on the same night, in two different parts of the world.

A WBA champion may be promoted to "Super Champion" without winning another organization's title: Chris John, Floyd Mayweather Jr., and Anselmo Moreno are examples. The WBA will also promote their titlist to a "Super" champion when he successfully defends his title five times.[11]

As of 2017, the WBA continues to issue Regular titles, despite having previously stated that they would seek to reduce their number of titles to one per weight class

lets clarify by hearing from Mendoza.....

"In the heavyweights division we created a tournament that we could not finish last year because of the many inconveniences. For this reason I will clarify it here: Klitschko vs. Joshua is for the super championship, Briggs Vs Oquendo is for the regular title. The winner of the first match must go before Luis Ortiz and the winer of the second against Alexander Ustinov," Mendoza said.

"I am focused on only having a single champion [in each weight class]. There are members of the past directory that say there are weight categories that deserve a regular champion where there is a super champion, but I am very fussy about that subject," said Mendoza to ESPN Deportes."

"WBA President Gilberto Mendoza named current ‘Super’ champion Tyson Fury, ‘Regular’ champion Ruslan Chagaev and ‘Interim’ title holder Luis Ortiz
as part of seven contenders in the tournament. The remaining boxers include Wladimir Klitschko, Lucas Browne, Alexander Ustinov and Fres Oquendo."

WBA President Gilberto Jesus Mendoza explained. We currently have three world champions,” he said, Tyson Fury as the Super Champion, Ruslan Chagaev as the Regular Champion, and Luis Oritz as the Interim Champion. In order to have one champion like everybody is expecting from the WBA, and like everybody wants, we have set the following tournament.

Keith Thurman is the organization’s top welterweight titlist and Erislandy Lara is the top junior middleweight titleholder.

There are still interim titleholders in both divisions (Jack Culcay at 154 and David Avanesyan at147), but Mendoza told me Thurman and Lara will not be “elevated” to “super champion” status and the interim titleholders will not be reclassified as “regular” titleholders.

coming from the lips of Mendoza himself, the word "regular" appears..... shltloads of times

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coming from the lips of Mendoza himself, the word "regular" appears..... shltloads of times

As slang, to refer to the WBA world champion in a division that has a super champion. But it doesn't change the official name of the championship.

[Nay_Sayer]

Two blown up welters and Tarver, those are his greatest wins. Ok wins, not great.

Like I said, the R Kelly all over Bumlovkin's resume...

[aboutfkntime]

So do NBA and NFL players. But those leagues still have division champions, conference champions and world champions.

The WBA decided 18 years ago to create a new title, the super championship. It's not a world championship, it's a super championship. Because the WBA world championship was no longer the WBA's top championship, I stopped recognizing the WBA world championship as a legitimate world title. I don't recognize the super title as a world title either as even the WBA doesn't say it's a world title.

that is all you needed to say.....

I guess that is why they call it the " regular " title

the points you are still missing.....

1) the super champion, and the regular champion, both live on the same world lol..... they do not compete in different leagues, or in different conferences, or any of that dribble you mentioned..... THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE SAME TITLE, and are only separated on a whim, for sanctioning fee's

2) the IBF title competes on a parallel with BOTH the WBA super, and the WBA regular titles..... and the reason why is, because THEY ARE THE SAME FKN THING..... again, they are only separated on a whim, for sanctioning fee's

the IBF do not recognize multiple champions in a single division, proving that the WBA "regular" title is excess baggage..... which is why the WBA have pledged to remove them

[aboutfkntime]

As slang, to refer to the WBA world champion in a division that has a super champion. But it doesn't change the official name of the championship.

nah, they removed the " regular " from their rankings because it was sooooo embarrassing

how many minutes have you been following this sport?

FACT: the 3x WBA titles were called the super, regular, and interim..... for a LOOOOONG time kid

your " world " bollocks is rubbish, and you know it

this is the list of WBA " world " champions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WBA_world_champions

interestingly.....

1) the WBA world champions are listed as "super" and "regular"..... well, whaddya know, those fighters do live on the same planet after all

2) the title " regular ", is mentioned over 80 times, going back at least as far as 2001

did you really not know that the 3x WBA titles were called the super, regular, and interim, for a LOOOOONG time?..... how many minutes have you been following this sport?

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nah, they removed the " regular " from their rankings because it was sooooo embarrassing

Blatant lie. The WBA ratings have always listed the WBA world champion, never "WBA regular champion." You completely made that up.

how many minutes have you been following this sport?

Have been closely studying the sport since 1988.

FACT: the 3x WBA titles were called the super, regular, and interim..... for a LOOOOONG time kid

Called that by others, sure, but those were never the actual names of the titles. The WBA ratings, each and every month, for 18 years, have clearly stated WBA world champion.