Anthony Joshua on First Take

[Laligalaliga]

Well Hearn is responsible for the way AJ usually acts i.e "humble" and boring.

Hearn has said many times that he expects his fighters to act in a certain way because Matchroom/Sky events have a lot of corporate sponsors that don't want to be associated with anything too unprofessional or anything that can cause a scandal.

Hearn says that he likes AJ being the kids favourite and a role model to kids.

I get it, it's marketable and makes a lot of money, fair play to them. AJ is an ex gang member, drug dealer, bully etc. I doubt he's done a total 180 and is a total humble nice guy away from the spotlight, not saying he isn't decent but just the way he carries himself. He's obviously built a fake persona for the cameras and very media trained and that's why a lot of people find him to be fake, especially boxing fans. The casual's lap it up though and they play on it. Fair play to them i say, might aswell make all the money they can but if people can't see through it all, they are very gullible.

You making no sense. You sound like you live side by side with AJ.
You sound gullible yourself.

[Laligalaliga]

No doubt. I mean would they choose this sport if they were scared? Like which fighter turns professional thinking to themselves you know what, if I ever see this guy in the professional ranks I'm going to pass on this fight as I'm scared?

So many different factors for these guys once they do turn professional. It is all about their careers and the management team isn't going to risk a loss without getting compensated properly or what not.

Yeah. So sometimes I don't just blame the fighters alone as I know they have management that wants to cash out as well. It's just business and sports combined.

[juggernaut666]

Mr man, don't start with this old conversations. There was no paper developed to sign. Let's not go back and forth on this again. We have moved past that episode for crying out loud.

So the contract that Finkel said he was sending back unsigned was not paper work?

Mr.!Man don't be an idiot! :

[Laligalaliga]

Not saying he needs to downplay his opponents. Definitely not saying that as that can comeback to bite him. Ala Floyd vs Gatti. Called him a C+ fighter and then after the fight said I didn't mean that....Well, too late for that LOL.

Lolx...... I get that. Thou that's not exactly what I meant.

[Laligalaliga]

So the contract that Finkel said he was sending back unsigned was not paper work?

Mr.!Man don't be an idiot! :

Now you are beginning to sound like gullible idiot. Finkel never developed any paper work.
Which ever paper work developed in AJ/wilder negotiations were all done or created by heart you dimwit.

[juggernaut666]

Now you are beginning to sound like gullible idiot. Finkel never developed any paper work.
Which ever paper work developed in AJ/wilder negotiations were all done or created by heart you dimwit.

Finkel had discrepancy with the contract , he said other details were to be fixed in the contract that was sent ...the contract that Wilder publicly agreed to after going over it where Finke l said it wasn't ideal but fair and a great opportunity.

This is called finished or unfinished paperwork that the other party agreed to sign, you.just be ******ed ? Lol...

[EnglishOxide]

I think that sort of low-key persona works great in the UK, here in the US it comes off as very scripted and boring. We like our HWs scary and to have the "baddest man on the planet" persona. That's what made Tyson, Foreman, Frazier etc as popular as they were. Dudes were scary. Ali was loud and controversial.

AJ has the more quiet Lennox Lewis vibe, which OK I get it. But it wouldn't be the end of the world in the US to start bringing the bad guy out a little more. We know it's there..

How does being normal come across as being scripted but acting like a WWE character (ie being someone you're not) is more real?

The US is a strange place

[Laligalaliga]

Finkel had discrepancy with the contract , he said other details were to be fixed in the contract that was sent ...the contract that Wilder publicly agreed to after going over it where Finke l said it wasn't ideal but fair and a great opportunity.

This is called finished or unfinished paperwork that the other party agreed to sign, you.just be ******ed ? Lol...

When wilder/fury was made, were there details? (venue and date)??
Didn't they sign the paper work in view?

[BWC]

How does being normal come across as being scripted but acting like a WWE character (ie being someone you're not) is more real?

The US is a strange place

LOL I'm telling you that's how Americans like it. You have to remember WWE gets huge ratings. Conor McGregor is probably more popular in the US than he could ever be in the UK..

[juggernaut666]

When wilder/fury was made, were there details? (venue and date)??
Didn't they sign the paper work in view?

This is my last response to you on this thread bc your ****** meter is timed out with me.

You said NO paper work was sent?

FALSE a contract was drawn up and they agreed to it and they wanted a rematch clause after they agreed to terms in the written contract.

There was no written or agreed to date or venue between the Fury and Wilder camps over a MONTH. That fight was agreed to, so just stop!

Hearn made clear the fight would be at the only venue available in Cardiff, Finke l acknowledged that and complained about rematch then.

Don't you understand a contract is a written form..it's paperwork?

Jesus Christ you guys are dumb as hell.