The Charlos' missed tests

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    The Charlos' missed tests

    I can't reply to the thread because chrisJS has me blocked, but the way it works is that if the drug testers can't find you, you get a missed test strike. It's not practical to assume that an athlete will be available 24/7, 365, so a certain amount of "missed test strikes" are allowed before you're suspended.

    When they can't find you, you usually get a missed test strike and they just test you the next day. Maybe you forgot to tell them you were going to the movies, maybe you're on vacation and your cell phone service was poor, etc.

    To make sure legitimate excuses for not being found aren't abused, they set a limit on how many times per year this can happen before you get suspended instead of just paying a fine. Every organization is different. I don't know what the WADA code says on the matter, but for the WBC clean boxing program, I think it's a three strikes and you're out kind of thing, but it resets each year.
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    Funny how everyone has you blocked.

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      #3
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      I can't reply to the thread because chrisJS has me blocked, but the way it works is that if the drug testers can't find you, you get a missed test strike. It's not practical to assume that an athlete will be available 24/7, 365, so a certain amount of "missed test strikes" are allowed before you're suspended.

      When they can't find you, you usually get a missed test strike and they just test you the next day. Maybe you forgot to tell them you were going to the movies, maybe you're on vacation and your cell phone service was poor, etc.

      To make sure legitimate excuses for not being found aren't abused, they set a limit on how many times per year this can happen before you get suspended instead of just paying a fine. Every organization is different. I don't know what the WADA code says on the matter, but for the WBC clean boxing program, I think it's a three strikes and you're out kind of thing, but it resets each year.
      Correct, first two missed tests you get fined, and then the third one in a calendar year results in a failed test. I personally think they should change that but he was saying they "forgot" the test which makes no sense since it is a random test. How would they "forgot" about the test they didn't know was going to take place on that day?

      And again, they are far from the only ones with a missed test. SSR missed one himself and there were four others who missed their test in the same period that the Charlos did.

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        #4
        Originally posted by EnglishOxide
        Funny how everyone has you blocked.
        When you consistently prove people wrong and expose the fallacies of their arguments, they tend to block you.

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          #5
          Originally posted by KTFOKING
          Correct, first two missed tests you get fined, and then the third one in a calendar year results in a failed test. I personally think they should change that but he was saying they "forgot" the test which makes no sense since it is a random test. How would they "forgot" about the test they didn't know was going to take place on that day?
          "Random" drug testing is a term that is misleading. None of the tests are "random." CBP testing is a mix of announced and unannounced tests. This is to save on costs. Announced tests are way cheaper than unannounced tests, so it's a way to test the fighters more frequently. If every test was unannounced, the budget would only allow for far fewer tests.

          What would maybe be a logical change to the rules is that missing an announced test should count as two strikes while missing an unannounced test counts as one strike.

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            According to Sulaiman himself, it happens OFTEN but I guess because it was The Charlo's, them missing testing was more of a bigger story to run with especially for those who hate them

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              #7
              Originally posted by sicko


              According to Sulaiman himself, it happens OFTEN but I guess because it was The Charlo's, them missing testing was more of a bigger story to run with especially for those who hate them
              War Mikey has been the one making a huge deal out of it cause they’re a threat to canelo and canelo actually failed a test. He thinks everyone else must be a cheater

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                #8
                Originally posted by BufordTannen
                War Mikey has been the one making a huge deal out of it cause they’re a threat to canelo and canelo actually failed a test. He thinks everyone else must be a cheater
                EXACTLY why it was made a big deal because for some people they want the Charlo's, PARTICULARLY Jermall out of the equation because he is a threat, BIG THREAT to not just Canelo but also GGG as well

                This is what happens on this forum, when a guy who is a threat starts to rise and could possibly be a threat to someone they like, the HATE starts on that fighter.
                Last edited by sicko; 12-13-2018, 12:57 PM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by sicko
                  EXACTLY why it was made a big deal because for some people they want the Charlo's, PARTICULARLY Jermall out of the equation because he is a threat, BIG THREAT to not just Canelo but also GGG as well

                  This is what happens on this forum, when a guy who is a threat starts to rise and could possibly be a threat to someone they like, the HATE starts on that fighter.
                  Or it could just be su****ious. Because it is.

                  Arent you supposed to tell them when youre going out of town and where you’ll be?

                  Its not like they were at the market or corner store.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    "Random" drug testing is a term that is misleading. None of the tests are "random." CBP testing is a mix of announced and unannounced tests. This is to save on costs. Announced tests are way cheaper than unannounced tests, so it's a way to test the fighters more frequently. If every test was unannounced, the budget would only allow for far fewer tests.

                    What would maybe be a logical change to the rules is that missing an announced test should count as two strikes while missing an unannounced test counts as one strike.
                    The tests Charlo's missed weren't announced to them. Those were random. Just as Robert Garcia said what happened to Mares when VADA showed up to the gym unannounced.

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