Comments Thread For: Hopkins: Wilder Beat Fury - Will Knock Him Out in Rematch!

[bigjavi973]

Listen, the YDKSAB comment does nothing for you, me, or anybody here.

I have an observation and opinion, so do you. Let's keep it that way without the "YDKSAB" just because I don't agree with you. That's not how a discussion works.

Again, Fury fought back in that final round and wasn't necessarily fighting to defend himself as though he was wounded prey...he gave Wilder something to think about when he fought back and forced Wilder to step off the gas.

To me, a 10-8 round is when a guy drops another and MAINTAINS control of the lead he created...or you happen to drop a guy and there's not enough time in the round for him to recover and/or fight back. Fury had a good 2 mins to make his point and he did. If you're in there getting counterpunched and walked down AFTER you drop a guy, then your 10-8 round is up for grabs as far as I'm concerned.

At the end of the day, we all witnessed a great fight and that's just that. Both guys can implement a better game plan in the rematch.

And scoring it a draw one second then saying the other guy (Fury) would've won "easily" is asinine. Either you're winning comfortably, edging your opponent, or facing a draw...that's pretty much it.

Hope this helps you.

To me, a 10-8 round is when a guy drops another and MAINTAINS control of the lead he created

so what happens if its a CLOSE round and the guy drops him?


thats why that frame of thinking doesnt work. The lead can switch back and forth and lets say he had the lead for most of the round and drops him, and lets say for the last minute the other fighter regained control etc.....

thats still a 10-8 round

[TonyGe]

Pretty much all the talking heads in the sport agree he was exposed.... except for Bernard and a couple others. And Wilder knows well now that he is very limited. Why do you think he's been such a blowhard since the fight with a different excuse every day for a couple weeks after the fight? Fury is an excellent boxer, and Wilder has a punch. And the rematch will be even worse for Wilder.

Hey if they think Fury won fine but going around saying that he was exposed is idiotic. The thing is some of these guys think they are uncovering a well kept secret in the boxing world. I had Wilder with a draw and most likely a win.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

so what happens if its a CLOSE round and the guy drops him?


thats why that frame of thinking doesnt work. The lead can switch back and forth and lets say he had the lead for most of the round and drops him, and lets say for the last minute the other fighter regained control etc.....

thats still a 10-8 round

Just because that frame of thinking doesn't work for YOU, doesn't mean it equates to a moot point.

Yes, the lead can change back and forth...ebbs and flows, if you will.

Now...in the last minute of the round, does the dropped fighter regain control of the fight itself or his faculties? I just want to be clear before I answer your question.

As you can see, the views are subjective....hence the scorecards. Everybody see things differently, but there's no way in hell anybody can Wilder even looked comfortable enough to accept the draw afterwards.

He looked more surprised and relieved at the decision and relied on making things right in the rematch....same thing he did with his right hand all night long, to no avail.

[bigjavi973]

Just because that frame of thinking doesn't work for YOU, doesn't mean it equates to a moot point.

Yes, the lead can change back and forth...ebbs and flows, if you will.

Now...in the last minute of the round, does the dropped fighter regain control of the fight itself or his faculties? I just want to be clear before I answer your question.

As you can see, the views are subjective....hence the scorecards. Everybody see things differently, but there's no way in hell anybody can Wilder even looked comfortable enough to accept the draw afterwards.

He looked more surprised and relieved at the decision and relied on making things right in the rematch....same thing he did with his right hand all night long, to no avail.

gains control but doesnt stay from getting hit here and there.... again he was LOSING the fight for 2 whole minutes AND he got dropped....

how is it that ONE minute after getting dropped that would equate to him winning that round?

unless it was a beat down for that WHOLE minute....

which DID not happen in that 12th round and you know it.

[pittapatta66]

Man I woulda guessed he'd go with his slick bruvva Fury, but nope.

Subverting expectations in 2018, 'Mr. Joe Smith Jr Sir' must have damaged him more than we thought. Tbf it wuz a push doe...

[PunchyPotorff]

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Originally Posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
Pretty much all the talking heads in the sport agree he was exposed.... except for Bernard and a couple others. And Wilder knows well now that he is very limited. Why do you think he's been such a blowhard since the fight with a different excuse every day for a couple weeks after the fight? Fury is an excellent boxer, and Wilder has a punch. And the rematch will be even worse for Wilder.

Hey if they think Fury won fine but going around saying that he was exposed is idiotic. The thing is some of these guys think they are uncovering a well kept secret in the boxing world. I had Wilder with a draw and most likely a win.

Oh OK, first it was that Wilder WASN'T exposed... and now he was, but it's just that it wasn't a well kept secret. And if anyone thinks different than you, they're somehow idiotic. LOL

Wilder lost, and was awarded a gift draw so they could have the money plan of having a rematch, or even a trilogy. But he will flat out lose fight #2 badly.... killing off talk of a 3rd fight.

[MeanestNiceGuy]

gains control but doesnt stay from getting hit here and there.... again he was LOSING the fight for 2 whole minutes AND he got dropped....

how is it that ONE minute after getting dropped that would equate to him winning that round?

unless it was a beat down for that WHOLE minute....

which DID not happen in that 12th round and you know it.

Actually....Fury got dropped within the first 30-45 seconds of the final round. He had a good two minutes left and he made the most of it.

I get what you're saying though...at least I'm starting to understand your views a bit more.

To me, it's just subjective. I'm more in the minority when it comes to power punchers and them not finishing the job.

I felt the same way about Ruslan in the Algieri fight, Kovalev in the first Ward fight, and a couple of others.

If you're a known power puncher who drops a guy and doesn't finish him...you deserve to be on the end of a "bad" decision.

I may be a bit biased towards the worker bee fighter, rather than the power puncher. To me, the worker builds and sets up his attacks and does all the hard work that power punchers overlook because they feel they'll get them outta there regardless.

So yeah, when it comes down the final bell and the decision....we usually witness the power puncher trying to land power shots all night long (to no avail) but getting outworked nd outgunned a bit by the non-puncher.

[bigjavi973]

Actually....Fury got dropped within the first 30-45 seconds of the final round. He had a good two minutes left and he made the most of it.

I get what you're saying though...at least I'm starting to understand your views a bit more.

To me, it's just subjective. I'm more in the minority when it comes to power punchers and them not finishing the job.

I felt the same way about Ruslan in the Algieri fight, Kovalev in the first Ward fight, and a couple of others.

If you're a known power puncher who drops a guy and doesn't finish him...you deserve to be on the end of a "bad" decision.

I may be a bit biased towards the worker bee fighter, rather than the power puncher. To me, the worker builds and sets up his attacks and does all the hard work that power punchers overlook because they feel they'll get them outta there regardless.

So yeah, when it comes down the final bell and the decision....we usually witness the power puncher trying to land power shots all night long (to no avail) but getting outworked nd outgunned a bit by the non-puncher.

ok i feel ya glad we got that out the way

[Sid-Knee]

That's all I need f@ggot. You're scared to bet and put money up like a true bytch. I pulled your hoe card pussie end of story.

When you grow some nuts bet me. Checkmate f@ggot

Sorry, still not tough enough. Maybe you'll get some heart from father Christmas to give you that extra oomph. But as it stands, it doesn't even touch the sides.

Bookies, fool. This is where I go if I want to put money up. Not with some donkey on the internet.

[Sweet_Science2]

Sorry, still not tough enough. Maybe you'll get some heart from father Christmas to give you that extra oomph. But as it stands, it doesn't even touch the sides.

Bookies, fool. This is where I go if I want to put money up. Not with some donkey on the internet.

Scared to bet like a true bytch. I pulled your hoe card. Checkmate f@ggot