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  • #11
    Originally posted by BoxingTech718 View Post
    I believe Roach has ulterior motives to get a high profile client.

    Because what Fury did in the fight worked. The feints messed up Wilders timing and rhythm.

    If Fury Would have been more aggressive he would have offered Wilder more opportunities to land heavy.
    Which would have produced more Knockdowns and cost Tyson.

    What Tyson did worked and he won the fight in my opinion even if he didn’t get the official decision.
    To be fair roach wanted fury to be more aggressive when it mattered, several times wilder was ripe for the taking and fury backed off or tied up

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    • #12
      It's all well and good to say I would of told him this I would have told him that but I think he done a decent job of watching wilder and sticking to his game plan.
      It is abit worrying if he's giving the same choreographed advice to two different fighters in two different divisions.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
        Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach had a very close view of the heavyweight collision between WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder and challenger Tyson Fury, which took place earlier this month at Staples Center in Los Angeles.
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        sounds like Davison had a gameplan, and stuck with it

        Roach is more experienced/relaxed, and more likely to change it up

        Davison did a great job, and his style will evolve

        Wilder was ready to go Fury would know

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        • #14
          I kinda agree. I felt Fury could have atleast out wilder down I few times if he had let his punches go a little more but then again. Wilder would fire back. He likes it when guys persue him so he can **** his right hand back like he did with Ortiz in the tenth round. Caught Ortiz reaching in before the knock downs and hurt him.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by 7not8 View Post
            Yeah Freddie you tell'em! If he took your advice he probably would have gotten knocked down more than twice and probably out. SMDH, misery loves company.
            I doubt it.
            Freddie would have told Fury to stop hotdogging and keep the stiff jab .
            And would have told Fury not to roll .

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            • #16
              The only round I would have preferred Fury to take chances was in the 12th. After Fury was KD in the 12th, he got up and buzzed Wilder really good. He could have followed up a bit there.

              The rest of the fight I think Fury has the perfect gameplan. Wilder was bewildered most of the fight.

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              • #17
                lol roach is a proper snake. He probably wanted wilder to win, that’s why he wanted fury to just go for it

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                • #18
                  I would agree with Freddie. Go back and watch the fight again. There were times Fury actually stunned Wilder and could have followed up and dropped him. The trainer did play it too safe. I heard him say, “dont get too greedy” between rounds. What people don’t understand before this fight is Fury has a little something on his punches when he commits to them. He was 7th in the HW division with a 70% KO/TKO before the fight and still sits at 68% now.

                  Wilder-98%
                  Joshua-95%
                  Breazeale-85%
                  Miller-83%
                  Ortiz-78%
                  Kownacki-78%
                  Parker-69%
                  Fury-68%
                  Whyte-68%
                  Povetkin-67%
                  Pulev-58%
                  Chisora-57%
                  Jennings-54%

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by BLASTER1 View Post
                    It's all well and good to say I would of told him this I would have told him that but I think he done a decent job of watching wilder and sticking to his game plan.
                    It is abit worrying if he's giving the same choreographed advice to two different fighters in two different divisions.

                    yep

                    and I don't have a problem with giving the same advice to fighters in different divisions..... not if their styles/gameplans were similar

                    not sure who he was referring to..... but just as an example, Saunders/Lemieux, and Wilder/Fury..... would have a similar gameplan, and would receive similar advice..... aside from the individual technicalities for each fighter

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                    • #20
                      Freddie Roach is trying to stay revelant

                      “I’m more of an offensive coach, I’m very aggressive, and I was a little bit disappointed with the corner work because Ben was telling him to feint, feint and step back and I said to him ‘why are you telling him to step back? Let this guy fight. He can get rid of this guy’,” Roach said to Fox Sports.

                      And that is the reason your fighters get outboxes, take one or two losses, possibly more, sometime they get stoppage or KO in those losses, his defense plans are mediocre. The thing I don't like is the way Freddie Roach is trying to stay relevant after this fight, saying critiques in the media and practically robbing some shine of Ben Davison. In other words he disrespected Ben Davison with this. Freddie Roach was a excellent trainer in the past, but those days are over and he downgrade now as a trainer. HELL!!! Paquiao saw something in Freddie Roach to put him as advisory trainer only. First a cut man in the Tyson Fury corner, then a advisory trainer in the Paquiao vs Broner. Get the fuck out of here and get the spit bucket asshole.
                      Last edited by Dasmius Shinobi; 12-11-2018, 08:35 PM. Reason: corrections

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