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  • #61
    I wouldnt bother. Hearn and Joshua been chasing Wilder for well over a year now. 4 or 5 contracts sent to Finkel, some signed, some flat fees, some percentage split, some with 1 way rematch and the latest with a 2 way and every single contract offers more money than hes ever earnt in 1 fight, including his last very own PPV headline fight.

    Finkel and Wilder have refused every single offer and not sent a single one in return, "50 mill doe" Forget the 50 million offer it didnt come with a contract and Finkel refused to talk about it so how the hell that was ever going to get made i dont know. You can send a contract and refuse to discuss it any more, you can not send a contract but discuss its contents. But you cant NOT send a contract AND refuse to discuss its contents and still expect a deal to be done. Whose ever done that in this sport before?

    Wilder and his managers been ducking Joshua ever since AJ said he wanted that belt. Im sure the Wilder fans on here will tell me i dont know what im on about but you guys just dont have an argument, you just accuse everybody of being liars. But fact are facts all the contracts been sent from the UK and not a single thing has come back from Team Wilder. Nothing ever. Not 1 single contract and they have never sent back a signed one.

    How do people still think Deontay ever wanted that fight? Cuz he shouted alot to social media? Thats about as much effort as they have ever put in to making that fight.
    Last edited by DaNeutral.; 12-12-2018, 12:35 AM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Dasmius Shinobi View Post
      I don't care If the Joshua vs Wilder fight happen before the Fury vs Wilder 2 rematch. I only hope he not going to offer peanuts to Wilder and we know Wilder is not going to get peanuts to fight Joshua and then Eddie Hearn use that as a excuse to said Wilder ducked Joshua.
      Wilder was offered 8 times what his highest pay was with huge gain if He won beyond 4 belts and fought Fury for less money. What's the excuse for that? No rematch clause and after the Fury fight we see why.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
        Wilder was offered 8 times what his highest pay was with huge gain if He won beyond 4 belts and fought Fury for less money. What's the excuse for that? No rematch clause and after the Fury fight we see why.
        They are not going to listen to facts because facts doesnt suit their argument and agenda. Not to worry though everybody else knows whats what but these Wilder fans seem to just shout over and try to drown out the facts. They just call people liars and Joshua a coward. Cant go in to detail though cuz there is none.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
          Wilder was offered 8 times what his highest pay was with huge gain if He won beyond 4 belts and fought Fury for less money. What's the excuse for that? No rematch clause and after the Fury fight we see why.
          That 15 million flat fee is peanuts. Wilder fought Tyson for less money, hoping that fight was going to gain more leverage against Joshua. They got a draw, but the rematch is going to sell well and Eddie Hearns know that. I believe Eddie want Wilder vs Joshua before Tyson Fury got the win in the rematch, because the stocks of Joshua are going to rise greatly and he going to gain more laverage in a big showdown of Joshua vs Fury in UK. Eddie Hearn know a win against two undefeated fighters paid more If Joshua is the one who win against both Fury and Wilder. Is fair they make the fight of Joshua vs Wilder with 65/35 as a minimum in favor to Joshua. Less than that is a insult to the WBC champ, especially after that draw.
          Last edited by Dasmius Shinobi; 12-12-2018, 01:02 AM. Reason: corrections

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          • #65
            Originally posted by sportbuddha View Post
            AJ has all but one of the belts, Wilder should want to take them, that’s been the whole point all along. All this lineal BS is nonsense, it’s not even a thing unless you’re the Fury PR team.
            It’s been a thing for 200+ years. The ABC belts are new, and not a thing unless you’re a sanctioning body.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
              It’s been a thing for 200+ years. The ABC belts are new, and not a thing unless you’re a sanctioning body.
              The WBA belt is the actual lineage belt which was held by Patterson, Ali, etc...all the greats way before the WBC existed so that actually ranks over a fake label.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Dasmius Shinobi View Post
                That 15 million flat fee is peanuts. Wilder fought Tyson for less money, hoping that fight was going to gain more leverage against Joshua. They got a draw, but the rematch is going to sell well and Eddie Hearns know that. I believe Eddie want Wilder vs Joshua before Tyson Fury got the win in the rematch, because the stocks of Joshua are going to rise greatly and he going to gain more laverage in a big showdown of Joshua vs Fury in UK. Eddie Hearn know a win against two undefeated fighters paid more If Joshua is the one who win against both Fury and Wilder. Is fair they make the fight of Joshua vs Wilder with 65/35 as a minimum in favor to Joshua. Less than that is a insult to the WBC champ, especially after that draw.
                Wilder stood to make over 50 million against Joshua .Wilder was not confident enough in assuming he thinks he can defeat AJ . Fury defeated Wilder , he has an unofficial loss and had that happened with Joshua in the U.K in an actual knockout loss he gets no rematch . That is the reason why Wilder lost his pen.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
                  It’s been a thing for 200+ years. The ABC belts are new, and not a thing unless you’re a sanctioning body.
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                  The WBA belt is the actual lineage belt which was held by Patterson, Ali, etc...all the greats way before the WBC existed so that actually ranks over a fake label.
                  The 1885, John L. Sullivan win over Dominick McCaffrey is where they recognized the lineal championship for the first time. For that reason he said 200+ years. Lamentably that is something we can only read. I always dream to experience those type of boxing match in those times.
                  Last edited by Dasmius Shinobi; 12-12-2018, 01:34 AM. Reason: corrections

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                    The WBA belt is the actual lineage belt which was held by Patterson, Ali, etc...all the greats way before the WBC existed so that actually ranks over a fake label.
                    Okay, so you have no clue what you’re talking about. That’s cool, lots of people on here don’t. You should just avoid acting like you do know what you’re taking about. You’re spreading misinformation just to prop up Anthony Joshua. It’s even more upsetting that in an age where information is literally at your fingertips, instead of reading up on the Lineal title or lineage or anything, you made something up.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                      Wilder stood to make over 50 million against Joshua .Wilder was not confident enough in assuming he thinks he can defeat AJ . Fury defeated Wilder , he has an unofficial loss and had that happened with Joshua in the U.K in an actual knockout loss he gets no rematch . That is the reason why Wilder lost his pen.
                      Wilder accepted the flat fee:

                      https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/deonta...ry?id=55818581
                      https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c...ight-7wfjspft9
                      https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/new...aits-response/

                      Eddie Hearn is the one who forgot to include small, but important details in the contract. Example: A date and the guarantee to fight Joshua next.

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