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  • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
    Why are they horrible? Because they aren't as good has some predicted? Do explain what makes them horrible. Please use factual details.
    If you need to ask why 325,000 PPV buys for a Heavyweight fight is bad, then no matter what I say will make a difference.

    Wilder was so delusional that he actually thought it was going to sell 2.5 Mill. Most were saying around 600,000 buys. It didn't come close.
    Last edited by Sid-Knee; 12-10-2018, 09:02 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
      Wilders value fighting a bum has nothing to do with his value against Joshua. Switch Joshua and Wilder names and the statement is still true.
      Joshua makes big money fighting anyone in the top 10. Wilder makes big money fighting only Joshua/Whyte/Fury. It's all to do with who Wilder fights. That isn't the case with Joshua.

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      • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
        You seem to be more interested in taking shots at Wilder and trying to minimize him as a fighter than you are in seeing a unification fight between him and Joshua.

        You're worse than the Mayweather stans when it came to Pacman. Never wanna talk about the match up, just wanna talk about their guys purses and how he didn't need to fight Pacman to make money.
        But that's the point. The only way we get this fight is if Wilder starts talking sense. I'm the one who actually knows how this fight comes off. Wilder's fans are the ones who want him to continue asking for ridiculous money even though they won't see a penny of it. It isn't rational. All the hypocrisy and contradictions are there for all to see. From Wilder and his fans.

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        • Originally posted by chicken- View Post
          People who can only afford $30 UK boxing tickets keep talking out of their ********s and want to quote numbers and sellouts that earn a fraction of what US fights do. The Staples Center was packed and it was awesome.
          There were thousands of empty seats for the fight. And this was after giving thousands of tickets away for free.

          The ticket prices in the UK are good. They make more money than nearly every fight in the US. It doesn't price fans out of seeing a fight. That can only be healthy for the sport.

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          • Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
            What world level legacy can he build if he doesn't fight the most dangerous fighter in his division?

            He is the biggest attraction in GB. When he fights outside of Metro London and brings in big numbers, then your boat will be true. For now, he is the guy who has cornered your market.
            Joshua and Hearn are trying to get Wilder into the ring though. They just won't be ****ed over with the money.

            Why did Wilder take less than "Crackhead" money to fight Fury when he said it was a bigger fight than Joshua?

            GB is the only market that Joshua needs to crack to make big money. But he will fight in the US in the future and open up a new marker for himself.

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            • Hearn sounds salty cause he needs to make a proper figure to Wilder now.

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              • I haven’t actually seen the interview Hearn said this but nothing sound so odd. My initial reaction was that 320k ish was “ok” and nothing more. I expected 500k to be deemed a success.

                Part of the reason for this is because you were not just promoting a heavyweight title clash but two of the most promotable characters in the game and both whom had a claim for #1 status given their unbeaten status and history.

                People can talk about us revenue all they like but simply put England is 1/50th (don’t quote me just estimating based on state numbers so won’t be accurste) the size of America so not unreasonable to expect you should expect significantly higher.

                Comparing directly is a bit like saying Joshua sales across all of Europe vs America for example and I know that doesn’t quite work.

                Having said all that - I do remain of the view that the draw and the nature of it - can only be good for boxing and both fighters - and should help contribute to a far more successful ‘replay’.

                I watched a interview of frank warren where he implied BT numbers were still be counted, which made me think uk ppv weren’t that strong either - but given that it was on middle of the night I think it was probably unfair to expect much else.

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                • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                  If you need to ask why 325,000 PPV buys for a Heavyweight fight isn't bad, then no matter what I say will make a difference.

                  Wilder was so delusional that he actually thought it was going to sell 2.5 Mill. Most were saying around 600,000 buys. It didn't come close.
                  Thanks for the confirmation.

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                  • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                    But that's the point. The only way we get this fight is if Wilder starts talking sense. I'm the one who actually knows how this fight comes off. Wilder's fans are the ones who want him to continue asking for ridiculous money even though they won't see a penny of it. It isn't rational. All the hypocrisy and contradictions are there for all to see. From Wilder and his fans.
                    Funny, you're one the few on here still drinking the old Wilder is pricing himself out kool aid. Maybe you should listen to Hearn when he is talking sense and not just when he is bloviating. When Hearn offers 35%+ the fight will get made.

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                    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                      You only have to read this forum to know boxing fans are the dumbest and most deluded in sport.

                      The average limey has more sense than your very best. That's how dumb your nation is. It's a world known fact. Do some research. We all laugh at you idiots.

                      One word: Brexit.

                      ****** f**king limeys.

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