Another retired pro boxer just jealous of Wilder?

[jmrf4435]

I really don't think it's about jealousy man.

Like at ALL

[Gillie]

I'm just trolling mate, since Wilder and his hardcore fans turned on Ward and Mayweather because they gave their opinions too apparently making them jealous as well.

Ah. Okay. Good point on some fans turning though, I noticed that a lot recently as well.

[boliodogs]

Roy thought Fury won the fight. Most viewers agree with him. They asked him a question so he answered it. He didn't sound jealous. Damn near all boxing fans already consider Jones vastly superior to Wilder so why would he be jealous of Wilder?

[jmrf4435]

Sh^t I agree with RJJ & been saying that. People been underestimating Fury for far too long. Respect to Wilder for doing what he's doing & for what he did vs Fury that night cuz he didn't exactly suck either, but Fury is on some whole other sh^t & while Wilder keeps saying Fury was 100% I'm not so sure he was so he's just gonna look better in the rematch & vs Joshua eventually.

Fury gassed in the 12th

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Sh^t I agree with RJJ & been saying that. People been underestimating Fury for far too long. Respect to Wilder for doing what he's doing & for what he did vs Fury that night cuz he didn't exactly suck either, but Fury is on some whole other sh^t & while Wilder keeps saying Fury was 100% I'm not so sure he was so he's just gonna look better in the rematch & vs Joshua eventually.

I've said it for years. Tyson Fury is by far the most talented HW and if fit and motivated, beats anyone.

[Jax teller]

Roy thought Fury won the fight. Most viewers agree with him. They asked him a question so he answered it. He didn't sound jealous. Damn near all boxing fans already consider Jones vastly superior to Wilder so why would he be jealous of Wilder?

I know just mocking the fellas that turned on Ward and Mayweather, these fans are too fickle.

[champion4ever]

One of the official judges thought Fury did enough, one thought it was a draw and one was texting his missus or something, definitely wasn't watching the same fight everyone else was.

I thought Fury was the lineal Champ according to you guys? Do you think them two knock downs were anywhere near enough for that judge to warrant taking Fury's title?

Lol at how you are I'm full damage control on every thread. I don't know how you can support and his claim to being the baddest man on the planet when he's making so many excuses.

The two judges who scored it for Fury were within a single point of each other. One had it in terms of rounds 8-4 Fury and the other had 7-5 Fury. The last judge had 7-5 Wilder.

Now deduct the two knockdowns on the scorecards and you have the two judges favoring Fury with a score of 114-112 and a 113-113 Draw. Now contrast that with the one who scored it for Wilder 115-113. You have a score of 115-111 for Wilder.

People and judges are different. All of our perceptions are based on opinions. In the mind of that single judge who scored it for Wilder, thought Fury did not do enough or dominate to justify taking the title away from Wilder, while backing up and fighting off the back foot for most of the night.

For reference go watch the Ali vs Young fight on YouTube from 1976. Young clearly landed more punches than Ali but his body language gave the impression that he didn't want the fight as badly as Ali did; As the champ was the one coming forward eating punches but Young was constantly backing up throughout much of the fight and the judges didn't give it to Young either because of his lack of aggression.

It was very similar to this fight with Wilder vs Fury. Tyson's not throwing enough punches, getting floored twice, running out the clock, showboating and not getting hit, is not going to win him many decisions from judges in championship fights.

[DaNeutral.]

Oh not another person who is wrong. Poor Deontay has made his 43 excuses, 1 per manager, so how dare Jones side with a white man and none American. What does Roy Jones Jr know about Boxing? Wilder watched the fight back and scored himself the winner 118-110, what the hell was the crazy Russian Jones watching?

[sunny31]

The two judges who scored it for Fury were within a single point of each other. One had it in terms of rounds 8-4 Fury and the other had 7-5 Fury. The last judge had 7-5 Wilder.

Now deduct the two knockdowns on the scorecards and you have the two judges favoring Fury with a score of 114-112 and a 113-113 Draw. Now contrast that with the one who scored it for Wilder 115-113. You have a score of 115-111 for Wilder.

People and judges are different. All of our perceptions are based on opinions. In the mind of that single judge who scored it for Wilder, thought Fury did not do enough or dominate to justify taking the title away from Wilder, while backing up and fighting off the back foot for most of the night.

For reference go watch the Ali vs Young fight on YouTube from 1976. Young clearly landed more punches than Ali but his body language gave the impression that he didn't want the fight as badly as Ali did; As the champ was the one coming forward eating punches but Young was constantly backing up throughout much of the fight and the judges didn't give it to Young either because of his lack of aggression.

It was very similar to this fight with Wilder vs Fury. Tyson's not throwing enough punches, getting floored twice, running out the clock, showboating and not getting hit, is not going to win him many decisions from judges in championship fights.

I'm not being funny buddy but I spent a day and half explaining to you the math on how to score the fight so I don't think you should be giving anyone else lessons on how to score a fight.

Secondly, in reference to your first post, fights aren't scored on feeling and the event as a whole, they also aren't scored on who deserves what, they are score on 4 scoring criteria interpreted over 12 x 3 minute rounds...period.

"Not getting hit" is a scoring criterion, it's called defence one of the 4 pillars of scoring, so yes you do score for making your opponent miss. This can be justified by Wilder's awful connect %

Fury for most of the rounds was also the ring general...why? Because for 90% of the fight he was fighting the fight he wanted to fight, he was "instilling" his style and will on his opponent not the other way around. This can be justified by the low output nature of the fight.

Effective aggression - Wilder was aggressive in small spurts, but was he effective? I think most would argue not. Even when he let a barrage of punches go, he almost always missed them all. In round 9, when he put Fury down that was effective aggression, he got him cornered and landed 2-3 punches in a row which put Fury down, but there were very few instances like this. Fact is Wilder is not an aggressive fighter, he is a fast, long range puncher who exploits openings, but doesn't really know how to set up his own.

Clean and Hard punching - this is the one criterion you can make a case for Wilder, his shots were harder. Problem is it doesn't cancel out everything above, and also, Fury overall landed the cleaner punches and more of them spread between the rounds. Over 50% of Wilder's landed power punches came in round 9 and 12...I REPEAT 50%

I think you really need to learn to properly score a fight before being so outspoken on the subject, you sound foolish.

You're obviously a long time boxing fan, and have good historical knowledge, but your perception of scoring is wrong

[Luilun]

Roy Jones after what he's accomplished in boxing is Jealous of a swinging windmill yea tell us another joke