TBRB Has Become What They Feared

[Tom Cruise]

If the majority of the voting members had Fury winning, why wouldn’t they put him ahead of Wilder?

The fights happen in the ring, not on the judges scorecard. Experienced fans know what they are watching and if they think a fighter has won, 3 judges seeing it differently shouldn’t make any difference, especially not with the history of corruption and poor judging that comes with our sport.

[koolkc107]

It says it right in their charter rules.

"Although close losses and poor wins may be reflected in the rankings, the Board will refrain from nullifying the official results, with one exception: If over 75% of the Board agrees that the judges’ decision in a non-championship bout is egregious enough to constitute a “robbery”, then the official winner may be ranked lower than the official loser. At least fifteen votes are needed for a quorum."

BTW when they talk about "championship" they're talking about lineal not the paper title Wilder now holds.

Here's the problem.

And here's YOUR problem.

We know they aren't following their own charter.

I believe a prior poster has the truth of it.

It is basically 3 guys who, when they get butthurt enough, put something before a panel they are sure will rubberstamp it.

There were MORE folks who thought Kovalev got robbed.
There were MORE folks who thought GGG got robbed.
(Neither did, but that isn't the point).

Yet, the guys running TBRB actually made the right call, the call that had integrity and abided by the ring decision.

With Wilder vs Fury, they took a fight CLOSER than the other two and went against the official verdict.

If it was about following their charter, these other fights I mentioned would have had a different affect in the rankings as well.

Clearly, there was another agenda in play.

Nice try tho...

[Szef]

Here's the problem.

And here's YOUR problem.

We know they aren't following their own charter.

I believe a prior poster has the truth of it.

It is basically 3 guys who, when they get butthurt enough, put something before a panel they are sure will rubberstamp it.

There were MORE folks who thought Kovalev got robbed.
There were MORE folks who thought GGG got robbed.
(Neither did, but that isn't the point).

Yet, the guys running TBRB actually made the right call, the call that had integrity and abided by the ring decision.

With Wilder vs Fury, they took a fight CLOSER than the other two and went against the official verdict.

If it was about following their charter, these other fights I mentioned would have had a different affect in the rankings as well.

Clearly, there was another agenda in play.

Nice try tho...

Do you actually believe the shyt you say?

Wilder/Fury was closer than Kovalev/Ward I and GGG/Canelo I?

[Eff Pandas]

During an online conversation a few years back, a co-founder of the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board (TBRB) told me, with a straight face, that, given his board’s stance on what constituted a “real” world champion, he had to strip Roberto Duran of his middleweight world title—twenty-three years after the fact. And, “brother,” this demoting of his favorite fighter tore him up so much that he had to take a long walk in the park to get his head together.

It was then and there that I knew for sure something was a bit “off” with at least some of these “transnational” people.

I had been a critic of the TBRB from the very moment it tried to bum-rush the boxing media and instantly claim itself as providers of boxing’s REAL divisional rankings coming from a pure, unbiased, incorruptible source. My criticism was actually more of a healthy skepticism, to be fair—a healthy skepticism that grew as I started poking around more.

The organization, which came to be when a handful of writers rejected Ring Magazine’s 2012 championship policy changes for their pretend rankings, was really just a Ring Magazine rankings board 2.0. Other than holding firm on only #1 vs. #2 determining their “real” world champs, the TBRB rankings, like Ring Magazine’s, were fully determined by the whims and whimsies and opinions of writers invited to be part of their panel.

The TBRB would kick things off in October of 2012, recruiting members with influence at major websites, who would then leverage that influence into instantly declaring the group the only legitimate source for boxing rankings. TBRB press releases were showcased as front page material at member websites. Interviews were conducted by board members with board leaders, essentially pushing a “why are we so awesome” line of questioning.

As I poked, prodded, and questioned the group’s motives and operational structure, I had several heated run-ins with members who vehemently disliked my digging and meddling.

The crew that was literally insisting on instant and full credibility, offered zero transparency into the nuts and bolts of their ranking process or procedure. And, believe me, trying to find out how, exactly, their rankings were put together was like pulling teeth.
That changed a bit when member Eric Raskin included a blurb about their process in a rah-rah blog he posted at ESPN.com.

“Every Sunday,” Raskin wrote, “the three founders put their heads together and update the rankings to reflect the past week’s results; the updates are posted on a message board accessible only to members; the TBRB board members weigh in with disagreements and suggestions; the founders take the suggestions into account and finalize the ratings.”

So, in short, a board which boasted 30+ members (and now claims 50 from 20 different countries), is really only used as a prop to support, confirm, or clean up the rankings made by three people and, at the end of the day, finalized by those same three.

When one initially heard about this ranking board of do-gooders, 30 (or 50) members strong, it was reasonable to assume that this was a true group effort, maybe a popular consensus of what the board thought as a whole. This wasn’t the case, though. But it was that assumption that won over some fans and media people—including a perpetually befuddled Teddy Atlas, whose glowing pro-TBRB quote is still dragged around by the organization like a 40-year-old man carrying his participation trophy from a high school track meet.

Was I right in my assessment of how things worked? I’m assuming yes, just based on the information available, but it would be hard to confirm any of this because they just wouldn’t allow independent access to the process.

http://www.boxing.com/the_transnatio...thingness.html


TRBR is the very definition of pretentious.

Fair play & thanks for the breakdown & correction on my take here. I guess I wasn't fully on board with what the TBRB was doing. I've always thought they were like that NCAA football poll with a bunch of guys voting every week.

Just to ask what indie rankings do you see as the best indie rankings out there? All I want is one ranking org. that means something & is as legit & fair as can be reasonably expected.

[koolkc107]

Do you actually believe the shyt you say?

Wilder/Fury was closer than Kovalev/Ward I and GGG/Canelo I?

It's aint about believing what I say or someone else says.

It's about facts.

And the facts bear out that Wilder/Fury was closer than those fights.

Let me try and help you understand a little better with something you might find clearer.

When Fury beat Wlad, the cards were 115-112, 115-112, and 116-111 all to Fury.

Fury landed 2 less punches on Deontay than he did Wlad. Wilder landed almost 20 more total punches than Wlad and decked Fury twice...and yet fanboys cannot understand why it was scored a draw.

It was scored the right way by the British judge and ultimately the right verdict was reached.

[Szef]

It's aint about believing what I say or someone else says.

It's about facts.

And the facts bear out that Wilder/Fury was closer than those fights.

Let me try and help you understand a little better with something you might find clearer.

When Fury beat Wlad, the cards were 115-112, 115-112, and 116-111 all to Fury.

Fury landed 2 less punches on Deontay than he did Wlad. Wilder landed almost 20 more total punches than Wlad and decked Fury twice...and yet fanboys cannot understand why it was scored a draw.

It was scored the right way by the British judge and ultimately the right verdict was reached.

LOL

I need a break from this place.

[Kezzer]

The wilder fanboys have so much sour g****s it’s unreal. Sometimes your man just isn’t as good as you wanted him to be

[koolkc107]

The wilder fanboys have so much sour g****s it’s unreal. Sometimes your man just isn’t as good as you wanted him to be

That could be said for a lot a fighters.

I like Fury, but in his two biggest fights, he was at about 7 total punches landed per round.

That may be defensive genius when you limit your opponent to less.

Not so much when you hit the deck twice.

That is, objectively speaking...