TBRB Has Become What They Feared

[Madison Boxing]

I go off the action in the ring. I bet OP gave Whitaker credit for Chavez and that affected his pound for pound ranking and who rates higher. I know I had Whitaker winning that fight.

If a decision is close but I see I am in a minority or slight majority I respect it but if it's totally egregious you've got to go with what happened in the ring.

yea, i used to go by official verdicts up until recently but not doing it anymore cause its so blatant and every time theres money on the line involving a home fighter you know the opponent is going to get jobbed. every ****ing time. people should have seen a robbery coming a mile off, i even did a thread about it that fury would get robbed(where people called me an idiot). they were going to rob gvozdyk too. the sport is an absolute mess and as ridiculous as it now sounds theres so much corruption/bias that you have to disregard judges decisions. why rank fighters based on paid off judges

[bigjavi973]

its the straw that broke the camels back. when i made p4p lists i used to go by the official verdict but boxing is so blatantly corrupt that enoughs enough. they are right to rank fury ahead of wilder, just cause a paid off judge gave wilder the first 4 rounds doesnt mean ****

link that you have proof that the judge was paid off....



oh and ill wait......

[bigjavi973]

I go off the action in the ring. I bet OP gave Whitaker credit for Chavez and that affected his pound for pound ranking and who rates higher. I know I had Whitaker winning that fight.

If a decision is close but I see I am in a minority or slight majority I respect it but if it's totally egregious you've got to go with what happened in the ring.

i think in that regard it would be understandable for the P4P rankings but not regular rankings in one weight class

[chrisJS]

yea, i used to go by official verdicts up until recently but not doing it anymore cause its so blatant and every time theres money on the line involving a home fighter you know the opponent is going to get jobbed. every ****ing time. people should have seen a robbery coming a mile off, i even did a thread about it that fury would get robbed(where people called me an idiot). they were going to rob gvozdyk too. the sport is an absolute mess and as ridiculous as it now sounds theres so much corruption/bias that you have to disregard judges decisions. why rank fighters based on paid off judges

I've became somewhat disillusioned with it all. It's testing my passion. I love the sport and the action but the politics are the worst it's been in years and the scorecards are more obviously rigged than ever. Wilder-Fury and Gvozdyk-Stevenson are two clear examples and lo and behold it's fixed by the same adviser.

What's bad is that spineless fans endorse and celebrate bad decisions and are happy with them if it suits/saves their guy so it won't stop because half the audience is happy to see it. Controversial decisions used to be held in much more contempt; Lewis-Holyfield I had an investigation, made front page news and everyone was up in arms about it. If that fight and decision happens in 2018 most fans would be celebrating it and defending it. I was a huge Holyfield fan too.

[Phenom]

TBRB is really no better than other rankings I know some try to elevate it because they don't like the ring magazine ownership situation but I never put much weight in their rankings

They are very pretentious though more so than the ring ever was

[Eff Pandas]

TBRB is really no better than other rankings I know some try to elevate it because they don't like the ring magazine ownership situation but I never put much weight in their rankings

They are very pretentious though more so than the ring ever was

I just want ONE ratings group to follow that I view as the elite indie rankings. And to me TBRB is that.

Its not about no pretentiousness thing. Its a keeping sh^t simplistic thing.

[sicko]

I will be honest...Long Time Boxing Fan but I have never EVER looked at at TBRB Ranking

I kind refer to the Belt Organization Rankings so I'm always on fight news ranking page and I typically go by that more than anything

These other Rankings mean absolutely NOTHING Now! R I N G use to have Merit but the blatant bias with Childish Writers who take time to BASH FIGHTERS on their Social Media Completely RUINED R I N G credibility IMO. Those Ranks are for Casuals as well as Sports Gamblers who don't following boxing as much so they go look up the ranking of guys they're not as Familiar with to see where they Rank

The only good thing about R I N G these days is Cynthia Conte interviews

[DaNeutral.]

They saw Wilder get ouboxed and gifted a false result. He lost that fight, its done now, cant be changed but that doesnt mean people have to believe it. Fury proved without doubt he is better than Deontay Wilder, so that website positioned them accordingly.

Screw the dodgy result, Wilder gets to keep his belt, he gets to keep his zero and he got to keep the money. But he aint getting the credit, that robbery can do alot of things but it cant take away what everybody saw and so everybody doesnt have to give the man the credit of a fighter who deserved to draw that fight. He deserved to lose it. Makes it even worse when Wilder fans start demanding it.

[DuckAdonis]

The difference here is that Fury was ranked above Wilder before the lay off and this was his first real test back...and almost everyone thought he passed it.

[Bardamu]

Link to this being a legit thing.

Here's the voting members last I was aware.

There are currently 53 members representing 21 countries on six continents: the United States, England, Italy, the Philippines, Ireland, Chile, Cuba, Costa Rica, Scotland, Canada, New Zealand, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Norway, Sweden, Japan, Thailand, Australia, Argentina, Russia and Ghana.

Vittorio Parisi (Chair)
Cliff Rold (Chair)
Tim Starks (Chair)
Stewart Howe (Tech)
Rey Tecson (Record keeper)
Mauricio Salvador (Record keeper)
Ken Pollitt (Record keeper)
Mexico Carlos Aguirre (Board member)
Ramon Aranda (Board member)
Gonzalo Baeza (Board member)
Shaun Brown (Board member)
Kevin Byrne (Board member)
Derek Bonnett (Board member)
Brian Campbell (Board member)
Michael Carbert (Board member)
Lázaro Malvarez Cárdenas (Board member)
Abac Cordero (Board member)
Jake Donovan (Board member)
Jose Corpas (Board member)
Lou Catalano (Board member)
Oliver Fennell (Board member)
Billy Ferguson (Board member)
Jeremy Foley (Board member)
Andrew Fruman (Board member)
Paul Gibson (Board member)
Kenneth Bouhairie (Board member)
Jeandra LeBeauf (Board member)
Alex McClintock (Board member)
Matt McGrain (Board member)
Yuriko Miyata (Board member)
Diego Morilla (Board member)
Gabriel Muhr (Board member)
Gautham Nagesh (Board member)
Takahiro Onaga (Board member)
James Oddy (Board member)
Eric Raskin (Board member)
Alister Scott Ottesen (Board member)
Harry Otty (Board member)
Matthew Paras (Board member)
Per-Ake Persson (Board member)
Alex Pierpaoli (Board member)
Adam Abramowitz (Board member)
Arvin Nundloll (Board member)
Victor Salazar (Board member)
Don Steinberg (Board member)
Brandon Stubbs (Board member)
Alexey Sukachev (Board member)
Luis Torres (Board member)
Paul Upham (Board member)
Steve Zemach (Board member)
Nick Wong (Board member)
Brin-Jonathan Butler (Board member)

4. Three Chairs
To prevent factionalism, three chairs will arbitrate input and weigh arguments to arrive at reasonable boxer placements. The chairs will serve as facilitators, conduits, and deciding parties as necessary.

The three chairs decide on the rankings. The other members provide feedback, but have no power. The chairs can either change their rankings or not. It is not like other rankings where everybody votes and the averages determine the rankings.

The chairs decide. Members say what they think. And the chairs decide.

It doesn't matter how many members they have, it is still three people that decide on the rankings.

They try to make themselves sound unbiased and legit by pointing to all the members. But those members have no power or vote. Literally.

Look it up, if you want. It is true. Three people. Rold, Starks, and the Italian guy. That's it. It is a complete joke. Rold and Starks both had Fury winning 114-112. And decided it was egregious for anyone to score one more round to Wilder.

And their own rules state if suspended for peds, you can't fight for a vacant title in your return fight. They changed that for Canelo, even after saying they wouldn't. The reason is "mitigating circumstances." Which in this case, was Rold, Starks and the other fellow deciding that they should ignore it.

They again broke their own rules, to drop Wilder.

You have as much power to change their rankings as all the non-chair members.

The Ring and espn actually have their rankings based on votes from numerous members to prevent bias. The IBO and Boxrec have computerized algorithms to prevent bias in their rankings.

TRBR has three people decide their rankings. And three people to decide on when the rules are adhered to and when they are totally disregarded. TRBR is a complete joke.