TBRB moves Fury ahead of Wilder in their rankings.

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    #31
    Originally posted by DuckAdonis
    I had Fury winning at least 9 out of 12 rounds...so yeah he definitely proved he was the better fighter to me and to most people who watch and cover boxing. Hence why The Ring and TBRB rank Fury above Wilder
    Ring is owned by Golden Boy, what they have to say is irrelevant. You have no credibility if you're going to point to them as any sort of respected independent arbiter. Many members of the Ring ratings board quit and publicly outed Golden Boy for interfering in the ratings, hence the creation of TBRB.

    I have no problem with TBRB rating Fury above Wilder, but TBRB uses a lot of low level "reporters" from outlets with no budget to send them to the fights or enough clout to get them credentials.

    Many of the most respected publications, who actually have their experts seated ringside, had a draw or Wilder winning. Yes, more had Fury winning than had Wilder winning, but so many had a draw that Fury winning was actually the minority of the ringside cards, and therefore it's ridiculous to cry robbery.

    AP, ESPN, Yahoo, LA Times, Sporting News, Washington Post, etc all had a draw or Wilder winning. When that many top level publications don't have Fury winning, you can't cry robbery when the official decision is a draw.

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      #32
      Originally posted by chrisJS
      Truly one of, if not the most pathetic account here.

      So, you don’t like boxing, you are a Fury fan but think Wilder won and come crying to his rescue when someone says anything about him or any PBC fan.

      I used to think you were a paid shill but your not. Otherwise you’d have revealed your name. You are a fanboy and everyone knows it.
      You're lying. I never said I think Wilder won. I've repeatedly said I scored the fight a draw. So no, I don't think Wilder won. I had him down by 2 heading into the 12th.

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        #33
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
        Ring is owned by Golden Boy, what they have to say is irrelevant. You have no credibility if you're going to point to them as any sort of respected independent arbiter. Many members of the Ring ratings board quit and publicly outed Golden Boy for interfering in the ratings, hence the creation of TBRB.

        I have no problem with TBRB rating Fury above Wilder, but TBRB uses a lot of low level "reporters" from outlets with no budget to send them to the fights or enough clout to get them credentials.

        Many of the most respected publications, who actually have their experts seated ringside, had a draw or Wilder winning. Yes, more had Fury winning than had Wilder winning, but so many had a draw that Fury winning was actually the minority of the ringside cards, and therefore it's ridiculous to cry robbery.

        AP, ESPN, Yahoo, LA Times, Sporting News, Washington Post, etc all had a draw or Wilder winning. When that many top level publications don't have Fury winning, you can't cry robbery when the official decision is a draw.
        If the Ring is so biased then why did they have Golovkin ranked above Canelo after that first fight which was also ruled a draw officially?
        Because they are not biased and most thought GGG won despite the Ring being owned by goldenboy. If they were biased they would have put Canelo p4p #1 instead of Golovkin...especially after he beat Golovkin. They now have Loma #1 instead. And they also have no reason to be biased for Fury. They are just being honest unlike you.
        Try again

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          #34
          Originally posted by DuckAdonis
          If the Ring is so biased then why did they have Golovkin ranked above Canelo after that first fight which was also ruled a draw officially?
          You're wrong. Ring continued to recognize Canelo as middleweight champion until June 2018. Even after the ratings board voted to strip Canelo, Golden Boy over ruled and refused to strip him. It was only after the backlash was so overwhelming and enough Ring employees complained publicly, that Golden Boy backed down and finally stripped Canelo.

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            #35
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            I haven't bashed Fury at all. He took more damage, but he won more rounds. I scored the fight a draw. My agenda is always the same. Truth. Couldn't care less about anything else.
            nope, your agenda is not the "truth" Don't be a slimy little snake.

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              #36
              Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
              AP, ESPN, Yahoo, LA Times, Sporting News, Washington Post, etc all had a draw or Wilder winning. When that many top level publications don't have Fury winning, you can't cry robbery when the official decision is a draw.
              By my current count, 60% of media sources had Fury winning and 40% for Wilder/The Draw. If you have extra sources can you post them in my thread?

              Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!

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                #37
                Originally posted by jglvz256
                By my current count, 60% of media sources had Fury winning and 40% for Wilder/The Draw. If you have extra sources can you post them in my thread?

                https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...2#post19334582
                The flaw of your thread is that you're just listing whoever you find, regardless of whether they were on press row to score the fight. Even if 60% had Fury winning instead of 40%, that's still not a robbery.

                BoxingScene spoke to 14 leading experts and 6 had Fury winning. That's not a robbery.

                After Saturday night’s WBC heavyweight title defense by Deontay Wilder, who scored two-knockdowns during a draw with lineal champion Tyson Fury, BoxingScene.com

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                  The flaw of your thread is that you're just listing whoever you find, regardless of whether they were on press row to score the fight. Even if 60% had Fury winning instead of 40%, that's still not a robbery.

                  BoxingScene spoke to 14 leading experts and 6 had Fury winning. That's not a robbery.

                  https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-...coring--134267
                  I already included all of the experts in that thread in my original count.

                  The flaw I see is that you pick and choose which statistic to emphasize in order to fit your agenda. For instance you don't mention that five times as many experts gave the fight to Fury compared to Wilder.

                  You said you had 30 ringside sources that you were using for your "the majority of ringside experts didn't have Fury winning" declaration so why don't you post them for us?

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                    #39
                    Not mad at the change to be honest. Fury was the top guy before he left and now it is clear he still is pretty much the same guy that he once was and he gets a top 2 ranking. Some will argue he is #1.

                    End of the day we will know for sure once all three of them mix and match.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jglvz256
                      The flaw I see is that you pick and choose which statistic to emphasize in order to fit your agenda.
                      I have no agenda other than the truth. I spoke to as many people on press row as I could and the rough percentage was 40% Fury, 40% draw, 20% Wilder. BoxingScene then posted an article of the experts they spoke to, and the percentages were very similar.

                      You say you've done research and found 60% scoring for Fury. Fine. That's still not a robbery.

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