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so lets say spence stops mikey
and then mikey has to go down to 135 and fight loma?
do we give loma credit for beating mikey?
i mean....to me thats similar to brook fighting lil g....and when spence beat brook after they called him damaged goods...."Oh lil g ruined him blah blah all hail the ATG lil g he beat a WW...brook will never fight at WW again after this anyway he sooooo big"....LOL
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Originally posted by Curt Henning View Postso lets say spence stops mikey
and then mikey has to go down to 135 and fight loma?
do we give loma credit for beating mikey?
i mean....to me thats similar to brook fighting lil g....and when spence beat brook after they called him damaged goods...."Oh lil g ruined him blah blah all hail the ATG lil g he beat a WW...brook will never fight at WW again after this anyway he sooooo big"....LOL
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Originally posted by man down View PostHere we go, so who do you want him to fight?
im just asking a question that i think is fair...if spence stops mikey and breaks him down is that much different than what people claimed after lil g stopped brook then spence fought him?
i like loma...but i think that situation would be almost identical...and people trashed spence "oh brook was already ruined by golovkin" and golovkin fans swore before the brook/golovkin fight that brook wouldnt fight at WW again because he was so big.....i think its a fair scenario/question to ask
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Originally posted by Curt Henning View Postnah im fine with him fighting mikey after spence beats him
im just asking a question that i think is fair...if spence stops mikey and breaks him down is that much different than what people claimed after lil g stopped brook then spence fought him?
i like loma...but i think that situation would be almost identical...and people trashed spence "oh brook was already ruined by golovkin" and golovkin fans swore before the brook/golovkin fight that brook wouldnt fight at WW again because he was so big.....i think its a fair scenario/question to ask
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Originally posted by Curt Henning View Postso lets say spence stops mikey
and then mikey has to go down to 135 and fight loma?
do we give loma credit for beating mikey?
i mean....to me thats similar to brook fighting lil g....and when spence beat brook after they called him damaged goods...."Oh lil g ruined him blah blah all hail the ATG lil g he beat a WW...brook will never fight at WW again after this anyway he sooooo big"....LOL
Problem you got though is if you use the same arguments as the guys you've been criticising what does it say about you? What did you say about Spence vs Brook? Apply the same reasoning you did there and at least no one can accuse you of hypocrisy.Last edited by Citizen Koba; 12-06-2018, 06:21 PM.
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Originally posted by Koba-Grozny View PostYeah. It's problematic that one - and it is a legitimate argument same as it was with Brook vs Spence. Sometimes a fighter is never the same after that first L or sometimes they grow from it - you never can tell. Only way to know for sure is what they go on to do afterwards.
Problem you got though is if you use the same arguments as the guys you've been criticising what does it say about you? What did you say about Spence vs Brook? Apply the same reasoning you did there and at least no one can accuse you of hypocrisy.
but many insisted otherwise
i guess we would have to see how spence/mikey unfolds first before we can make a full call on what mikey/loma is/will be
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Originally posted by Curt Henning View Postso lets say spence stops mikey
and then mikey has to go down to 135 and fight loma?
do we give loma credit for beating mikey?
i mean....to me thats similar to brook fighting lil g....and when spence beat brook after they called him damaged goods...."Oh lil g ruined him blah blah all hail the ATG lil g he beat a WW...brook will never fight at WW again after this anyway he sooooo big"....LOL
You know they'll give Spence the credit they refused to give GGG and would **** on Loma and not give him the credit they gave Spence.
It's not as one-sided as you seem to think. My feeling is I'll wait to see how badly Mikey loses but I didn't give GGG credit for Brook, I gave Spence a little bit of credit for Brook and I'll not give him any credit for Mikey. If Mikey gets beaten badly and doesn't take a tune-up then Loma wouldn't get much credit if he loses a close fight and then wins some fights then Loma might deserve credit.
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Originally posted by chrisJS View PostWill the same fans who trashed GGG-Brook give Spence credit for beating Mikey? Will the same fans who gave Spence major credit for Brook give Loma credit for beating Mikey?
You know they'll give Spence the credit they refused to give GGG and would **** on Loma and not give him the credit they gave Spence.
It's not as one-sided as you seem to think. My feeling is I'll wait to see how badly Mikey loses but I didn't give GGG credit for Brook, I gave Spence a little bit of credit for Brook and I'll not give him any credit for Mikey. If Mikey gets beaten badly and doesn't take a tune-up then Loma wouldn't get much credit if he loses a close fight and then wins some fights then Loma might deserve credit.
id suspect though ur probably right in that if mikey gets stopped he prob takes a tuneup before loma....that would just be stupid to not take a lighter touch between those two guys
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