Aj needs to fight and beat ortiz impressive to keep pace with fury-wilder

[NEETzsche]

... I don't act like anything else that's here already: this thread was about Ortiz fighting Aj, a.s.o. ...

... then he may fight Big Baby or White... and see what happens with the sales...

Joshua vs Whyte would sell very well, might be his biggest payday to date

[The Big Dunn]

I would be happy to see Joshua face Ortiz in April (assuming Fury and Wilder were unavailable) but he has no right to actually demand a title shot with a win streak of Cojanu and Kauffman. Whyte and Usyk are clearly more deserving right now

I think an Ortiz fight would be the better move if Fury/Wilder rematch. I disagree with you because Usyk hasn't fought a HWT fight yet, AJ already beat Whyte, and Ortiz hurt Wilder and almost had him out.

[billeau2]

Whoever has beaten the best competition to earn a shot. Ortiz hasn't and looks like he has no intention to anytime soon.

You are ridiculous. Ortiz is a skilled fighter and indeed, the books would be interesting for that fight. You could not even name a fighter... yet poo poo Ortiz. The fact of the matter is that Ortiz fought a close fight with Wilder and almost won. he would be a great opponent for AJ. Povatkin was a great win, but Povatkin did not have the punch, reach, or drive to beat AJ.

[BoZz]

aj is nothing but a coward..best win 41 yr old klitschko who fury had a easy time with. If you think the old Russian midget povetkin or parker are wins worth mentioning then you have no fkn clue about boxing. Charlie Zelenoffs belts have more worth than Joshua's belts lol

[Robbie Barrett]

You are ridiculous. Ortiz is a skilled fighter and indeed, the books would be interesting for that fight. You could not even name a fighter... yet poo poo Ortiz. The fact of the matter is that Ortiz fought a close fight with Wilder and almost won. he would be a great opponent for AJ. Povatkin was a great win, but Povatkin did not have the punch, reach, or drive to beat AJ.

How is saying fighters that have took harder fights and beat better comp should be at the front of the queue for title shots ridiculous you clown? That's how it should be.

WHAT HAS ORTIZ DONE TO EARN A SHOT?

[billeau2]

They're both ranked above Ortiz on boxrec and the WBC, the organisation that ranks gives Ortiz his highest ranking, have Whyte ranked higher.

Alot Wilder fans say AJ will avoid Miller because he's too good, thats dumb, so I'm sure Brit casuals that don't know boxing could be convinced to hate Miller enough to want to pay to see him get slept, he is good at talking crap.

You act like Wilder Fury has detracted from AJ, that is some dumb s#hit, all they've done is bring more attention to the sport that's good for everyone. The only way they affect AJ's sales is if they fight on the same night and that aint happening as they'd all lose out.

You don't seem to explain why Ortiz does any better.

Ortiz has a lot of experience and did great against Wilder. Big Baby does not yet have the experience. Now,.. If Joshua wants to pick from the barrel, its not a bad thing to fight a guy coming up like Miller, Ruiz, etc. But he did so against Parker relatively recently and it might be better if these guys were exposed against each other. Ortiz has proven himself against the top of the division.

Whyte also has fought well against AJ. People forget that fight but Whyte looked good. AJ has gotten better since then and this might affect a subsequent fight between the two.

[Robbie Barrett]

Ortiz has a lot of experience and did great against Wilder. Big Baby does not yet have the experience. Now,.. If Joshua wants to pick from the barrel, its not a bad thing to fight a guy coming up like Miller, Ruiz, etc. But he did so against Parker relatively recently and it might be better if these guys were exposed against each other. Ortiz has proven himself against the top of the division.

Whyte also has fought well against AJ. People forget that fight but Whyte looked good. AJ has gotten better since then and this might affect a subsequent fight between the two.

No he hasn't. Plenty of fighters have outboxed Wilder before getting stopped that didn't make them elite. What's he done to earn a title shot?

[DuckAdonis]

Ortiz yes, Miller and Whyte no

Ortiz is on the same level as Miller and Whyte

At the top it's AJ, Fury and Wilder

Right below it's Whyte, Ortiz, Povetkin and Miller

[billeau2]

How is saying fighters that have took harder fights and beat better comp should be at the front of the queue for title shots ridiculous you clown? That's how it should be.

WHAT HAS ORTIZ DONE TO EARN A SHOT?

You know... its not always about wins and losses. Its about performance. So for example, lets say when Joshua fought Parker, all the judges were from New Zealand and gave Parker a decision... And let say the judges in the Wilder fight against Fury went with Wilder...

You have to look at performance. Ortiz performed a lot better than Povatkin when given a chance at the top of the division. Povatkin did nothing against AJ, Otrtiz almost got Wilder. That is what is relevant, not wins and losses.

[billeau2]

No he hasn't. Plenty of fighters have outboxed Wilder before getting stopped that didn't make them elite. What's he done to earn a title shot?

He almost stopped wilder ya dozzer! It was not outboxing, he had Wilder hurt with big punches.